BMW M5 Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-18-2024, 06:34 PM   #1
IND-Distribution
BMW obsessed
IND-Distribution's Avatar
10056
Rep
11,085
Posts

Drives: G82 M4 / G87 M2
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

IND | World's First G90 M5 On A Dyno

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Join us as we continue our dedication to providing independent dyno results for BMW's latest M models. As you can imagine, we had been counting the days leading up to our G90 M5's arrival, so you can imagine our excitement this past weekend after taking delivery.

While we have quite a lot of exciting developments to share in the coming weeks and months, our first weekend with the car mostly involved the terrible task of adding a few miles in anticipation for what should be the world's first independent dyno of the new G90 M5. As with a lot of our previous dyno adventures, we were back with our friends at Performance Eurowerks to see just how underrated the G90 M5 comes from BMW. After our experience with our G09 XM, we were eager to see what the G90's hybrid system had in store.

We're not ones to drag out a teaser, so let's dive right into the results! (Video Below)





Our Best Runs Pre Break-in - Dynojet 424:
IND G90 M5: 696.13hp at 5230rpm // 729.59tq at 2420rpm

For Comparison:
IND G09 XM: 614.84hp at 6500rpm // 569.14tq at 2380rpm

Assuming approximately 15% drivetrain loss from the xDrive system, that put's our G90 M5 at an insane 820hp and 859lb-ft of torque. Even if you're convinced that the xDrive system has reached a level of efficiency where it's only losing 10% through the drivetrain, the difference compared to the claimed 727hp and roughly 737lb-ft of torque from BMW is stark.

Unlike when we dyno tested our XM which was not fully charged, we were sure to have the G90's battery topped off prior to the trip to PE. Compared to our standard edition XM's dyno test last year and BMW's claimed numbers, it's clear the G90's output is much more inline with S68 Hybrid setup in BMW's XM Label (Red) which BMW quoted at 748hp / 1000Nm. Regardless of the comparison, and to no one's surprise, the G90 M5 follows BMW's recent tradition of almost criminally underrating its power outputs.
__________________
IND DISTRIBUTION | 866-963-4520 • INSTAGRAMYOUTUBEFACEBOOKFLICKR
Appreciate 42
thereef5101657.00
B-1Pilot174.00
rjlsae12.00
AlexFL7984.50
asif163168.50
Jason43787.00
M5Dan224.00
Gfit3296.00
paprmkr696.00
CarlosM4794.00
ASAP10946.00
///M TOWN32477.00
KB7151.00
RyanBMW469.00
M5ddox179.50
icegrill2139.50
330iToy74.00
Crazy1323281.50
T0RM3NT4587.00
Jimc44.00
werdn711.50
matowi860.00
CMW33897.50
m5 guy1799.00
forcefed3358.00
LENBMW2.00
jpf34012.00
M3Diaz365.00
1dopem5359.00
      11-18-2024, 06:43 PM   #2
DocWeatherington
Brigadier General
DocWeatherington's Avatar
United_States
3351
Rep
4,386
Posts

Drives: F90 CP
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2024 XM  [10.00]
Awesome post, do have any graphs in comparison to the last gen M5? I'm curious to see the data and power delivery.

Last edited by DocWeatherington; 11-18-2024 at 06:47 PM..
Appreciate 1
M_Torx442.50
      11-18-2024, 06:46 PM   #3
AntWrig
Private First Class
AntWrig's Avatar
United_States
80
Rep
167
Posts

Drives: 2018 G30 530i
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Geez!
__________________
IG:CLN_BMR

G30 530i / Stage 3 via BM3 / xHP Stage 3 / IPOS IM450 Turbo / IPOS 4" Catted Downpipe / IPOS Port Injection/ Motive Reflex + / Armaspeed Intake / MPE Exhaust / PSS10 Coils / M Performance brake kit /20x9 - 20x10.5 Vossen HF-5 Gloss Black
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 06:50 PM   #4
hufington
Lieutenant Colonel
hufington's Avatar
United_States
4366
Rep
1,646
Posts

Drives: 2022 X5 m50i
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: North East

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
That was to expect. No surprise there.
__________________
2022 BMW X5 m50i
2024 MB S580
2025 RR SV Edition 2 on order
'18 X5 50i / '16 BMW F10 550xi / '13 BMW F10 535i / '07 BMW E64 630i / '03 BMW E65 745i / '95 BMW E34 540i / '89 BMW E30 M3

Last edited by hufington; 11-18-2024 at 09:48 PM..
Appreciate 1
orkinos291.50
      11-18-2024, 06:54 PM   #5
AlexFL
Brigadier General
7985
Rep
4,628
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

That's easily 800 hp at the crank. Over 830 hp if calculated with 20% drivetrain loss. Insane!
Appreciate 4
      11-18-2024, 07:04 PM   #6
Ghost_e90m3
Enlisted Member
Ghost_e90m3's Avatar
United_States
21
Rep
39
Posts

Drives: F10 M5
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Quiet impressive.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 07:20 PM   #7
Ev0lutionx
Lieutenant
Ev0lutionx's Avatar
868
Rep
493
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: IL

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by IND-Distribution View Post
Join us as we continue our dedication to providing independent dyno results for BMW's latest M models. As you can imagine, we had been counting the days leading up to our G90 M5's arrival, so you can imagine our excitement this past weekend after taking delivery.

While we have quite a lot of exciting developments to share in the coming weeks and months, our first weekend with the car mostly involved the terrible task of adding a few miles in anticipation for what should be the world's first independent dyno of the new G90 M5. As with a lot of our previous dyno adventures, we were back with our friends at Performance Eurowerks to see just how underrated the G90 M5 comes from BMW. After our experience with our G09 XM, we were eager to see what the G90's hybrid system had in store.

We're not ones to drag out a teaser, so let's dive right into the results! (Video Below)



https://youtu.be/q3kxC6IokKo

Our Best Runs Pre Break-in - Dynojet 424:
IND G90 M5: 696.13hp at 5230rpm // 729.59tq at 2420rpm

For Comparison:
IND G09 XM: 614.84hp at 6500rpm // 569.14tq at 2380rpm

Assuming approximately 15% drivetrain loss from the xDrive system, that put's our G90 M5 at an insane 820hp and 859lb-ft of torque. Even if you're convinced that the xDrive system has reached a level of efficiency where it's only losing 10% through the drivetrain, the difference compared to the claimed 727hp and roughly 737lb-ft of torque from BMW is stark.

Unlike when we dyno tested our [...]
Thanks for sharing! It’s always mind boggling how much BMW underrates their figures. Like you stated, it is criminal.
Appreciate 3
      11-18-2024, 07:23 PM   #8
2Times
I'd hit it
2Times's Avatar
United_States
1224
Rep
1,150
Posts

Drives: G82 & E89
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Austin

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2016 BMW Z4 35is  [0.00]
2023 BMW M4 xd  [10.00]
Curious if there’s a difference post-break in service
__________________

2023 M4 xd BSM
2016 Z4 35is BSM
IG: MFor_YourPleasure
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 07:33 PM   #9
ledphut
First Lieutenant
ledphut's Avatar
United_States
960
Rep
483
Posts

Drives: Alpina XB7
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 Alpina XB7  [8.30]
Be happy they underrated them as it saves us on insurance premiums.
Appreciate 2
raym3cs180.50
LENBMW2.00
      11-18-2024, 07:41 PM   #10
E63M6_G42M240i
Lieutenant
E63M6_G42M240i's Avatar
United_States
1071
Rep
650
Posts

Drives: 2024 TR G80 M3CX
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Orange County, CA, USA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
A tune and it’s 1,000 at the crank. What’s even more impressive is that our S58 motors usually make more than this with just a custom e40-e60 tune with 1,500 less lbs.
Appreciate 1
      11-18-2024, 07:50 PM   #11
///M TOWN
-
///M TOWN's Avatar
United_States
32477
Rep
9,677
Posts

Drives: M GmbH
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: North America

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 M2  [9.24]
Nicely done iND ❕

I don’t see with a little effort why it can’t be a cool 1000 horsepower…
__________________
///

Last edited by ///M TOWN; 11-18-2024 at 07:51 PM..
Appreciate 3
      11-18-2024, 08:00 PM   #12
GhostyM
Major
GhostyM's Avatar
United_States
565
Rep
1,469
Posts

Drives: plenty
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i View Post
A tune and it’s 1,000 at the crank. What’s even more impressive is that our S58 motors usually make more than this with just a custom e40-e60 tune with 1,500 less lbs.
True, but the weight shows off how much performance it loses by being as heavy as a Tahoe

Appreciate 2
x6221206.50
      11-18-2024, 08:03 PM   #13
E63M6_G42M240i
Lieutenant
E63M6_G42M240i's Avatar
United_States
1071
Rep
650
Posts

Drives: 2024 TR G80 M3CX
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Orange County, CA, USA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostyM View Post
True, but the weight shows off how much performance it loses by being as heavy as a Tahoe

https://youtu.be/hlBNTk9DaHA?feature=shared&t=23
Yup oh well there’s always the autobahn
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 08:19 PM   #14
GhostyM
Major
GhostyM's Avatar
United_States
565
Rep
1,469
Posts

Drives: plenty
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i View Post
Yup oh well there’s always the autobahn
I'd go for an S58 powered 4-door over this monstrosity any damn day of the week lol.
Appreciate 5
x6221206.50
spuntyb4348.00
      11-18-2024, 08:33 PM   #15
Seba77W
Lieutenant
Seba77W's Avatar
482
Rep
617
Posts

Drives: BMW 435i Xdrive Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chicago IL

iTrader: (0)

Wow amazing numbers, but it will need that much to move all that weight as fast as it does! 🫣😝
__________________
2014 435i xDrive M-Sport, Fabspeed cat, Active Autowerke axle back, CTS Turbo intake, ER charge pipe, ER Competition Intercooler, MHD Tuning Stage 2+
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 08:53 PM   #16
mjr24
Colonel
2336
Rep
2,864
Posts

Drives: 25 X7, 24 I7
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wisconsin

iTrader: (0)

Would also like to see how these numbers compare to the F90….
__________________
2025 X7 40i, 2024 I7 60i, 2022 M8 Comp GC, 2021 AMG GT53, 2022 X5M Competition, 2021 X7 40i, 2019 M5, 2018 M550I, 2017 Audi Q7, 2014 M6 GC, 2013 Mercedes CLS550, 2011 750LI, 2008 M6 Cabrio, 2008 Porsche Cayenne S, 2004 Mercedes SL55 AMG, 2003 Mercedes SL500, 2000 Mercedes CL500, 1993 Lexus SC400, 1989 525i, 1985 318i

Last edited by mjr24; 11-18-2024 at 08:53 PM..
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 08:55 PM   #17
AlexFL
Brigadier General
7985
Rep
4,628
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostyM View Post
I'd go for an S58 powered 4-door over this monstrosity any damn day of the week lol.
different strokes for different folks. People who appreciate EV-like smooth acceleration and no turbo lag combined with a V8 sound will love the G90.
Appreciate 1
      11-18-2024, 09:02 PM   #18
OneTwo3
Private First Class
158
Rep
174
Posts

Drives: Toyota Camry
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Detroit Michigan

iTrader: (0)

696 to the wheels?!?!
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 09:03 PM   #19
BadBoostedBMWM3
Lieutenant
BadBoostedBMWM3's Avatar
United_States
441
Rep
609
Posts

Drives: e36m,F80,G80;TRX; 992 TTS; F95
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville, KY

iTrader: (0)

Wow, I thought my s58 Dyno was flat up top.
__________________
This is my signature...
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 09:11 PM   #20
Crazy1323
Lieutenant
282
Rep
425
Posts

Drives: RS6
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Memphis

iTrader: (0)

This dyno graph looks like it is tuned like this to protect the trans.

The torque curve is perfectly flat up until about 5,250. Once the RPM’s get up things in the transmission start to heat, so the torque comes down in a nice linear fashion to keep the power flat.

Unrelated fun fact, This is exactly how 3-phase industrial motors are programmed with their torque and power output.
Appreciate 7
      11-18-2024, 09:46 PM   #21
x622
Forced Induction Connoisseur
x622's Avatar
1207
Rep
942
Posts

Drives: 23 X5MC / 23 720s / 25 M4CS
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: AZ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2025 M4 CS  [0.00]
2023 BMW X3MC  [0.00]
2023 Mclaren 720s  [0.00]
2005 Honda S2000  [0.00]
2023 BMW X5MC  [0.00]
1964 Ford Mustang  [0.00]
1968 Pontiac GTO  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy1323 View Post
This dyno graph looks like it is tuned like this to protect the trans.

The torque curve is perfectly flat up until about 5,250. Once the RPM’s get up things in the transmission start to heat, so the torque comes down in a nice linear fashion to keep the power flat.

Unrelated fun fact, This is exactly how 3-phase industrial motors are programmed with their torque and power output.
Indeed! Interesting results. So they are for sure protecting the tranny for longevity/warranty issues.

I echo other's sentiments that a s58 powered 4 door would likely be more entertaining due to it being less than the aforementioned Tahoe.

Can ya'll get a dyno of it not fully charged?
__________________
Oy vey, look at all these shekels
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2024, 10:22 PM   #22
X5V8Fan
Registered
90
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: E39 528i
Join Date: Oct 2024
Location: TX

iTrader: (0)

No matter how much the designer polarized the exterior design of the entire lineup, we can all come back together and love BMW for marketing their wheel horsepower instead of crank.
Appreciate 2
Xanston19.50
LENBMW2.00
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36 PM.




m5:
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST