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🏁 The Race to 2025 Begins in March 2025 but we can't wait for it therefore let's start here with some discussions! 🏎️

The 2025 Formula 1 season is underway, and it promises to be one of the most thrilling yet! With a revamped calendar, groundbreaking technologies, and intense rivalries, fans are in for a spectacular year. Here's what you need to know:

🔥 Teams & Drivers:
The grid is packed with talent, from seasoned champions defending their legacy to fresh faces eager to prove their mettle. Will the reigning champion hold onto the crown, or will a new contender rise?



🌍 Race Calendar:
This season features a record-breaking 24 Grands Prix, with exciting new circuits in Spain and Austin, USA, plus a return to fan-favorite tracks. Mark your calendars!

⭐️ Brutal start to the season, double + triple. And for the first time in a long time, we will start in Australia. The tightest schedule for the first three months.

⭐️ Unusual 3-week break in July, then the Belgium-Hungary double and the already traditional month-long break in August. Light summer.

⭐️ Very even autumn - double, Azerbaijan and Singapore separately, American double, Brazil separately and the final triple.





OFF-SEASON

❄️ December 2024 - January 2025 - Christmas and New Year holidays, broadcasts of historic Formula 1 races, VK Donut materials

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❄️ February 26 - February 28, 2025 - live broadcasts of pre-season tests in Bahrain on Simply

❤️ March 14, 2025 - first practice session of the Australian Grand Prix, end of the off-season


🔧 Tech Innovations:
2025 introduces further advancements in sustainability, with fully carbon-neutral fuels now mandatory across all teams. Expect even faster and more efficient cars that push the limits of engineering.

The Race has already published data on the permitted number of tests for the first half of the 2025 season for all teams in relation to their position in the Constructors' Championship.

Wind tunnel and CFD data.



👀 Storylines to Watch:

Monaco GP extended until 2031



Dutch GP until 2026



Chinese GP extended to 2030




📅 Opening Race:

It all kicks off under the lights at the Australia International Circuit on March 14th. Who will take the first checkered flag of 2025?

Join us as we dive into a season of speed, strategy, and drama. Get ready to witness the pinnacle of motorsport like never before!
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How you see this? Glory at Ferrari is what Fred Vasseur sees 🏆

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How you see this? Glory at Ferrari is what Fred Vasseur sees 🏆

I don't see things quite the same way as the meme above. For example, think about the many race strategy errors the F' team delivered in 2024. HAM is an important spoke in the team wheel, but the other team players must not make strategic mistakes when supporting HAM i.e. tire strategy, fuel strategy etc.
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what is a carbon neutral fuel? do they put the dinosaur back into the ground after sucking out the black stuff?
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I don't see things quite the same way as the meme above. For example, think about the many race strategy errors the F' team delivered in 2024. HAM is an important spoke in the team wheel, but the other team players must not make strategic mistakes when supporting HAM i.e. tire strategy, fuel strategy etc.
hamilton can help the team with his experience and his motivation to launch Charles into glory

but if Hamilton wants the team to treat him as top dog, Ferrari will fall apart because i don't think he's as fast as he used to be. in his debut season he beat reigning world champion Fernando Alonso (who denied Schumacher his 8th title in the process), no idea why they're both still around!
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what is a carbon neutral fuel? do they put the dinosaur back into the ground after sucking out the black stuff?
Carbon-neutral fuels are designed to have no net carbon emissions over their lifecycle. While burning these fuels still produces carbon dioxide (CO₂), this is balanced by the carbon captured or removed during their production process. This is achieved in several ways:

Biofuels: Derived from organic materials like plants or agricultural waste. The plants absorb CO₂ during their growth, which offsets emissions when the fuel is burned.

Synthetic Fuels (e-fuels): Created using captured CO₂ from the atmosphere and hydrogen extracted from water, using renewable energy sources. These fuels are manufactured in a way that recycles carbon, ensuring zero additional carbon is released into the environment.

Impact on Formula 1 Cars:

Sustainability Goals: By switching to carbon-neutral fuels, Formula 1 aligns with its target of becoming carbon-neutral as a sport by 2030. This move demonstrates leadership in promoting eco-friendly technologies that could have applications in everyday vehicles.

Performance Innovation: Carbon-neutral fuels are designed to mimic the energy density and performance characteristics of conventional fossil fuels. Engineers are refining the internal combustion engines (ICE) to maximize efficiency and power output while ensuring compatibility with these sustainable fuels.

Hybrid Systems: These fuels work alongside advanced hybrid power units, which integrate electric components to recover and reuse energy. The result is a system that not only reduces emissions but also achieves exceptional energy efficiency.

Why This Matters for Fans and the Industry:
Faster Cars: Contrary to concerns about sustainability reducing performance, the development of carbon-neutral fuels ensures that Formula 1 maintains its reputation for speed and innovation. The engineering teams are leveraging cutting-edge science to make the cars faster while meeting sustainability criteria.

Ripple Effect in Automotive Technology: Formula 1’s adoption of carbon-neutral fuels serves as a testing ground for similar technologies in consumer vehicles. If successful, this could accelerate the global transition to cleaner fuels for road transportation.

Environmental Responsibility: With the world focusing on reducing carbon footprints, Formula 1’s commitment signals a shift in motorsport culture, proving that high-performance racing can coexist with environmental consciousness.

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hamilton can help the team with his experience and his motivation to launch Charles into glory

but if Hamilton wants the team to treat him as top dog, Ferrari will fall apart because i don't think he's as fast as he used to be. in his debut season he beat reigning world champion Fernando Alonso (who denied Schumacher his 8th title in the process), no idea why they're both still around!
I don't agree. Is Hamilton going to play Perez? I don't think so. Charles has been there for years and does little more than he did this year. In other words, in my opinion, Ferrari will bring Ham to try to add the greatest number of points because Ham's consistency and experience could somehow galvanize the team but this is all a bit of speculation. I just think that Ham isn't going to Ferrari to be a coach.
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what is a carbon neutral fuel? do they put the dinosaur back into the ground after sucking out the black stuff?
Think it must be similar in formulation to Shell's Indycar series fuel...
“Shell’s 100% Renewable Race Fuel powering all competing vehicles in the INDYCAR SERIES contains a significant mix of second-generation ethanol combined with another renewable component to create the 100% renewable formulation that will reduce the greenhouse gas emissions by at least 60 percent compared to fossil-based gasoline,” said Bassem Kheireddin, Shell technology manager of motorsports. “We are very proud to bring it to the series, and it's a step to decarbonize motorsport.”

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hamilton can help the team with his experience and his motivation to launch Charles into glory, but if Hamilton wants the team to treat him as top dog, Ferrari will fall apart because i don't think he's as fast as he used to be. in his debut season he beat reigning world champion Fernando Alonso (who denied Schumacher his 8th title in the process), no idea why they're both still around!
If HAM wants the F' Team to treat him as top dog not only will the F' Team possibly fall apart, but HAM's desire to be Top Dog will deny launching Charles into glory (they're mutually exclusive). It must be one or the other for HAM and F' Team - but not both.
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If HAM wants the F' Team to treat him as top dog not only will the F' Team possibly fall apart, but HAM's desire to be Top Dog will deny launching Charles into glory (they're mutually exclusive). It must be one or the other for HAM and F' Team - but not both.
This is logical!
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The South African Grand Prix (not to be confused with South Africa) could return to Formula 1 in 2027.

👉 A committee will be set up next week to select the organiser of the Grand Prix, which will be held in Kyalami.

👉 The necessary modifications are planned to ensure that the track receives FIA Grade 1 certification.

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Constructors' Cup in Formula 1 History



🇮🇹 Ferrari - 16 (1961, 1964, 1975-1977, 1979, 1982-1983, 1999-2004, 2007-2008)

🇬🇧 Williams - 9 (1980-1981, 1986-1987, 1992-1994, 1996-1997)

🇬🇧 McLaren - 9 (1974, 1984-1985, 1988-1991, 1998, 2024)

🇩🇪 Mercedes - 8 (2014-2021)

🇬🇧 Lotus - 7 (1963, 1965, 1968, 1970, 1972-1973, 1978)

🇦🇹 Red Bull - 6 (2010-2013, 2022-2023)

🇬🇧 Cooper - 2 (1959, 1960)

🇬🇧 Brabham - 2 (1966, 1967)

🇫🇷 Renault - 2 (2005, 2006)

🇬🇧 BrawnGP - 1 (2009)

🇮🇹 Benetton - 1 (1995)

🇬🇧 Tyrell - 1 (1971)

🇫🇷 Matra - 1 (1969)

🇬🇧 BRM - 1 (1962)

🇬🇧 Vanwall - 1 (1958)
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Mmmmm, 2026 car. It's a strange thing that concepts always look heavier than the cars in reality (although 2026 cars should be smaller and lighter). In general, I like the cars of the latest regulations more than, say, the cars of the previous regulations (they seemed kind of square to me)

Perhaps the most noticeable change is the rear and front wing, which is completely new compared to the previous concept car

In addition, the concept has what we'll call "gills" for cooling in the rear, and the floor has been changed a bit







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The FIA ​​decided to show the new 2026 model car early in the morning to demonstrate their work on the regulations.

This is already the 9th version of the regulations and more detailed shots of it were leaked a week ago.

There are not many conceptual changes. One interesting thing is that large winglets appeared on the end plates of the front wing, which perhaps devalues ​​the narrower central plane of the wing (1-2 photos). After all, in fact, due to the 2 planes behind the end plates, we have a continuation of the wing, only without active elements. At the same time, they can become even larger in size (3 photos). The teeth on the lower plane, which were planned to puncture the tires of rivals, have disappeared. Now the FIA ​​model has a very thick nose (4 photos), but teams will probably not use this, resorting to a narrower version (5 photos). The new wing should increase the pressure on the front axle compared to the previous model.

On the front edge of the floor, in addition to the external deflector, there will be 5 guides instead of 4 (4 photos). The central part of the bottom has become even flatter, due to the fact that the two-story floor has disappeared (6-7 photos). Previously, the floor was elevated under the pontoons. Now, the absolutely flat bottom, with the exception of a small diffuser, will create even less pressure. There is still room for fantasy above the side edge of the floor.

The rear wing has received a recess toward the center, and at the same time the silhouette itself has become even smaller (7-8 photos).







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Flavio Briatore in response to autohebdo, will Jack Doohan drive for Alpine in 2025:

"My job is to take Alpine to the top, and in Formula 1 there is never room for feelings."

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Cadillac? Which Cadillac?

Ferrari has announced that it will supply F1 engines (and gearboxes) to Andretti from 2026.
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Ferrari has announced that it will supply F1 engines (and gearboxes) to Andretti from 2026.
Oh that's choice... The Maranello Press Release should be corrected to say, "led by TWG Global and General Motors, but powered by Ferrari"...
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Flavio Briatore in response to autohebdo, will Jack Doohan drive for Alpine in 2025: "My job is to take Alpine to the top, and in Formula 1 there is never room for feelings."

Dang, is that really him. I realize Flavio is now 74 years old but what happened to the other Flavio below?
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Here's a SUN article from October 2024 claiming he's back again with his now 44 year old ex-wife / girlfriend Elisabetta Gregoraci. He looks like he needs some selenium for his age spots in the first photo above but his staying power must be fine.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/126279...tta-gregoraci/
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Dang, is that really him. I realize Flavio is now 74 years old but what happened to the other Flavio below?
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Here's a SUN article from October 2024 claiming he's back again with his now 44 year old ex-wife / girlfriend Elisabetta Gregoraci. He looks like he needs some selenium for his age spots in the first photo above but his staying power must be fine.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/126279...tta-gregoraci/
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