[Mani59]

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We’ve finally got our hands on the new BMW M5, and it’s going head-to-head with its closest rivals - the Audi RS6 and the AMG GT 63 S 4-Door!

The BMW M5 may have come in for a fair bit of criticism since it was unveiled, but is it justified? It’s time to hit the track and find out! So let’s start off with a look at the stats…

Starting with the M5, it’s powered by a 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8 coupled with an electric motor. These combine to produce 727hp and 1,000Nm, and this power is sent to all four wheels via an 8-speed automatic gearbox. The car weighs in at 2,435kg, and as new it costs around £111,000.

Alongside it, we have the Audi RS6 Performance. This comes with a 4-litre twin-turbo V8 that can produce 630hp and 850Nm of torque. This is sent to all four wheels via an 8-speed automatic gearbox, and it tips the scales at 2,075kg. A new RS6 Performance costs from £116,000.

Then finally we have the AMG GT 63 S four-door. It also has a 4-litre twin-turbo V8, producing 639hp and 900Mm. This is sent to all four wheels via a 9-speed auto, weighing in at 2,135kg. A second-hand 2019 version of the GT four-door costs around £70,000, but a brand-new one costs around £156,000!

So will the M5’s hybrid power propel it to victory? There’s only one way to find out for sure… LET’S RACE!

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Mani59

https://youtu.be/cTK8ZAr5S7M?si=OHJonwxm2p-36WTO

Great post...curious to see how bmw responds with the M5 let alone the new hybrid RS7 and upcoming e63amg e performance.

All will be fat pigs within a hundred pounds of each other.

Still no Michelin’s

[Alan l.]

In before the trollers come here dismissing everything and keep complaining about its weight.

BMW comes out with a car that beats its competition in both price and performance while also adding electric only ability to suit what 99% of what people mostly use these cars for....... sounds like a winner in my book.

Like i've said it before and I'll say it again I wouldn't even consider this car if it weren't for the electrification aspect of it. Why? Because the X5M exists. Its just a better package for most of us that needs a all in one family car. Admittedly the Touring aspect also intrigues me but mostly its because the ev only mode works for my current life style doing lots of local kids activities. Now if BMW drops the same powertrain into an X5M down the road that will be a much harder choice to decide on.

[The0bald]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

In before the trollers come here dismissing everything and keep complaining about its weight.

Sure as night follows day, the same old names will be along to flood another thread with the exact same statements on weight, 0-60, M8 this, F90 that - nerdy spam.🥱

[G MONEY]

Say it again. Wish we could put the Beemer engine/drivetrain in the RS-6. I would pay any amount for that!! Just a shame the 5 is so Blah Blah on looks. Bland AF. Drag race was pretty much a dead heat with all 3 cars. That was interesting and pretty cool.

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

Say it again. Wish we could put the Beemer engine/drivetrain in the RS-6. I would pay any amount for that!! Just a shame the 5 is so Blah Blah on looks. Bland AF. Drag race was pretty much a dead heat with all 3 cars. That was interesting and pretty cool.

Pretty sure the next gen RS7 Avant will have a similar powertrain and weight.

[masd79]

I’m nearing break in service and I have to say it’s such a drivers car, handles amazing for its weight, nimble, the torque and engine response is powerful but super connected feeling as it accelerates thru winding roads. It’s getting better by the day, as someone said the systems starts to learn your way of driving and adjusts. People that are still negative simply haven’t driven it long enough, it’s 💯 better than f90 no doubt in my mind. As more people get this car and start putting mileage on it they will realize. And for those counting milliseconds, it’s already faster on a roll than most everything in its comparison, and if the really want to achieve mid 10s and subs 3 for whatever reasons, piggy back tunes and flash tunes will give em that and more, probably making it super car level fast too…

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

In before the trollers come here dismissing everything and keep complaining about its weight.

BMW comes out with a car that beats its competition in both price and performance while also adding electric only ability to suit what 99% of what people mostly use these cars for....... sounds like a winner in my book.

Like i've said it before and I'll say it again I wouldn't even consider this car if it weren't for the electrification aspect of it. Why? Because the X5M exists. Its just a better package for most of us that needs a all in one family car. Admittedly the Touring aspect also intrigues me but mostly its because the ev only mode works for my current life style doing lots of local kids activities. Now if BMW drops the same powertrain into an X5M down the road that will be a much harder choice to decide on.

Sorry Im not going to troll but what is impressive here?
1/4 mile in 11.3 seconds?
About 0.4 seconds slower than F93 M8, 0.2 seconds slower than F90 M5 and the same time as G80 M3 xDrive…
Shouldn’t we complain about weight?
Also this is battle between new generation of M5 and old generation of competitors… and G90 is only 0.1 second faster which can be alittle jump.
Dont get me wrong. G90 IS NOT A SLOW CAR but not fast enough as we expected.

[AHall]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Great post...curious to see how bmw responds with the M5 let alone the new hybrid RS7 and upcoming e63amg e performance.

All will be fat pigs within a hundred pounds of each other.

Still no Michelin’s

Has the Mercedes E63 AMG e-performance been announced?

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by AHall

Has the Mercedes E63 AMG e-performance been announced?

No it hasn't but assuming the e53 amg e performance is here, no reason thr E63 wouldn't follow either either v8 ot a higher boost inline 6.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Sorry Im not going to troll but what is impressive here?
1/4 mile in 11.3 seconds?
About 0.4 seconds slower than F93 M8, 0.2 seconds slower than F90 M5 and the same time as G80 M3 xDrive…
Shouldn’t we complain about weight?
Also this is battle between new generation of M5 and old generation of competitors… and G90 is only 0.1 second faster which can be alittle jump.
Dont get me wrong. G90 IS NOT A SLOW CAR but not fast enough as we expected.

Rolling race is as fast if not faster then the old car and all competitors except for e performance that is double the price
My point it is not slower as everyone complained
Yes i would like 800 hp m5 factory but for what is available right now it is the best
And a piggy back will put this csr in another level given the engine is detuned from factory

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Rolling race is as fast if not faster then the old car and all competitors except for e performance that is double the price

Rolling race is one of 3 criterias.
0-60, 1/4 miles are the other two

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Rolling race is one of 3 criterias.
0-60, 1/4 miles are the other two

true but roll-on acceleration is the most relevant one for the road

Also I think the only reason they didn't make the G90 way faster is the gearbox, ZF doesn't make one yet that is rated for more then 1000 nm

[masd79]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Rolling race is one of 3 criterias.
0-60, 1/4 miles are the other two

Plaid is the way to go then..

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by masd79

Plaid is the way to go then..

Sorry we are talking about cars LOL

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

true but roll-on acceleration is the most relevant one for the road

Also I think the only reason they didn't make the G90 way faster is the gearbox, ZF doesn't make one yet that is rated for more then 1000 nm

Well if there is limitation in torque or force then the only way to increase the acceleration is weight reduction LOL

BTW I dont know how both powers ( ICE and Electric ) are joining in G90. I thought Electric motors are connected to the wheels and ZF has input from S68 only so ZF8HP76 is sufficient for G90.

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Well if there is limitation in torque or force then the only way to increase the acceleration is weight reduction LOL

BTW I dont know how both powers ( ICE and EV) are joining in G90. I thought Electric motors are connected to the wheels and ZF has input from S68 only so ZF8HP76 is sufficient for G90.

nah the electric motor is integrated into the box on the G90, so you actually go up/down through the gears while in EV mode

it doesn't really seem possible to go lighter with this sorta hybrid setup, the 250k panamera turbo s weighs 5320lb if anyone could get it significantly lighter it'd be Porsche with that kind of price ceiling

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Rolling race is one of 3 criterias.
0-60, 1/4 miles are the other two

Again find me a car (not plaid lol) with same price point and same category and same performance
If i found one would have not got into the new g90 m5
Again i loved my 2 M8s and i think they are the best looking bmws but i have to say they started to look outdated and this is the reason i got the new m5

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Again find me a car (not plaid lol) with same price point and same category and same performance
If i found one would have not got into the new g90 m5

F93 M8 with better performance LOL

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

F93 M8 with better performance LOL

Hehe
Would love to do a rolling race with a f93 and tell you who will win

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

nah the electric motor is integrated into the box on the G90, so you actually go up/down through the gears while in EV mode

it doesn't really seem possible to go lighter with this sorta hybrid setup, the 250k panamera turbo s weighs 5320lb if anyone could get it significantly lighter it'd be Porsche with that kind of price ceiling

If that’s the case Im wondering which ZF is installed on G90.
The highest rating AFAIK is 8HP95 rated to 950 Nm and I guess 670 HP

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Hehe
Would love to do a rolling race with a f93 and tell you who will win

Well I dont have F93 but you can come to CA and race against my F92 LOL