cockpit recording Flight 1549

888 · 02-05-2009, 01:09 PM

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Blake · 02-05-2009, 01:25 PM

that's not a cockpit recording, just ATC tapes. scary still though.

Citizen Z · 02-05-2009, 01:32 PM

OMFG, lol, "we're gonna be in the Hudson." The pilot made it sound like he was negotiating with buddies on where they wanted go for dinner.

Blake · 02-05-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Citizen Z

OMFG, lol, "we're gonna be in the Hudson." The pilot made it sound like he was negotiating with buddies on where they wanted go for dinner.

he's definitely a smooth operator...if that was me flying, i don't know how i would have handled that, or even if i would have thought to ditch the plane. i've dealt with bird strikes before, but never a critical failure like that. most of the time, birds hit others parts of the plane or just one single engine, but 2!

e46e92love · 02-05-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by limited_slip

I don't know what the big fuss is? what he did wasn't a miracle or amazing or anything.

jets are design to safely land on water during an emergency. proof: ever see the pre-flight hand out regarding water landing?

Dude, tell me you are joking and being sarcastic? Do you really want me to list all of the things that SHOULD have gone wrong? If one wing so much as dips the slightest and one of the engines catches the water, or the tip of the wing touches, etc. Any of a dozen other things including the water being choppy could have caused the plane to cartwheel or spin out of control and break up into a dozen pieces.

Cheers,
Mark

Blake · 02-05-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by e46e92love

Dude, tell me you are joking and being sarcastic? Do you really want me to list all of the things that SHOULD have gone wrong? If one wing so much as dips the slightest and one of the engines catches the water, or the tip of the wing touches, etc. Any of a dozen other things including the water being choppy could have caused the plane to cartwheel or spin out of control and break up into a dozen pieces.

Cheers,
Mark

+1

jets are NOT designed to safely land on water, they're designed to safely land on land...that's why they call it a LANDING. if they were designed to land on water, they would have skids. think about simple fluid dynamics...fill up a sink, grab a cup, and force it through the water...resistance. unless the ditch is executed perfectly, like this case, it will end catastrophically. the ditch that capt. sullenberger executed might as well have been the absolute, most perfect ditch ever executed...not just the skill it took, but the environmental variables as well.

E90SLAM · 02-05-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by e46e92love

Dude, tell me you are joking and being sarcastic? Do you really want me to list all of the things that SHOULD have gone wrong? If one wing so much as dips the slightest and one of the engines catches the water, or the tip of the wing touches, etc. Any of a dozen other things including the water being choppy could have caused the plane to cartwheel or spin out of control and break up into a dozen pieces.

Cheers,
Mark

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Originally Posted by Blake

+1

jets are NOT designed to safely land on water, they're designed to safely land on land...that's why they call it a LANDING. if they were designed to land on water, they would have skids. think about simple fluid dynamics...fill up a sink, grab a cup, and force it through the water...resistance. unless the ditch is executed perfectly, like this case, it will end catastrophically. the ditch that capt. sullenberger executed might as well have been the absolute, most perfect ditch ever executed...not just the skill it took, but the environmental variables as well.

+2

See what happened to Ethiopian 767....terrorists got hijacked and assume it has enough fuel to their "destination"....then the plane tried to land offshore the Komoro islands in 1996.....only 50 out of 175 passengers and crews survived....

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=20751

SoYank · 02-05-2009, 06:51 PM

Damn, that's a calm and collected pilot. The ATCs weren't bad either feeding him what his alternatives were. Sounds like he just ran out of air but quickly recognized his only option.

E90SLAM · 02-05-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SoYank

Damn, that's a calm and collected pilot. The ATCs weren't bad either feeding him what his alternatives were. Sounds like he just ran out of air but quickly recognized his only option.

Rule of thumb during emergency are always "aviate, navigate, communicate"
so he took control of the plane first, then find out where his only "options" are...then finally communicate to ATC....you can see his response to the controller is very short and concise....

Blake · 02-05-2009, 07:04 PM

there's more to the tape that's not in OP's video....here's the rest with animation

Blake · 02-06-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by limited_slip

I have been practicing water landing for the last year with a wide range of aircrafts from the Boeing 777 to an airbus SUCCESSFULLY on MS flight simulator.

c0nstant · 02-06-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by limited_slip

Mark,

I am not saying what he did wasn't great. all I am saying is that people give him way too much credit. Honestly, how hard is it? I have been practicing water landing for the last year with a wide range of aircrafts from the Boeing 777 to an airbus SUCCESSFULLY on MS flight simulator.

yeah seriously. i mean come on guys, it really isnt THAT hard to land aircraft in water, especially after numerous successes in a simulator. i can get around the nürburgring in under 8 minutes in forza motorsport 2 (xbox 360). pssh, you idiots dont know shit.

FStop7 · 02-06-2009, 03:13 AM

Capt Sully earned this wallet

Russian325is · 02-06-2009, 03:19 AM

Of course...cause MS flight simulator's water physics are the same as RL. Given the fact that it was programmed to be used for emergency water landings.

Blake · 02-06-2009, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Russian325is

Of course...cause MS flight simulator's water physics are the same as RL. Given the fact that it was programmed to be used for emergency water landings.

so real that if you put down your landing gear and try to land on water, it'll land

E90SLAM · 02-06-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jh valley

yeah seriously. i mean come on guys, it really isnt THAT hard to land aircraft in water, especially after numerous successes in a simulator. i can get around the nürburgring in under 8 minutes in forza motorsport 2 (xbox 360). pssh, you idiots dont know shit.

+1

I could've win Formula 1 Championship cause I got the F2007 from my GT5P.....

quagmire · 02-06-2009, 11:52 AM

I took off and landed on an aircraft carrier with a 737 in X-Plane. So I am ready to do it in real life. Also in X-Plane my 737 has an anchor.

E90SLAM · 02-06-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by quagmire

I took off and landed on an aircraft carrier with a 737 in X-Plane. So I am ready to do it in real life. Also in X-Plane my 737 has an anchor.

i can see a cruise trip coming...

SoYank · 02-06-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by limited_slip

Now what is hard is landing a jumbo jet on top of a super oil tanker

Not really. The hard part is getting the tanker going fast enough.

quagmire · 02-06-2009, 01:07 PM

It's not that hard to ditch. So I agree with Limited.

Piece of cake. Just hold in ground effect to bleed off more speed and wait for it start to go down to enter the flare which helps to further bleed off the airspeed.

Blake · 02-06-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by quagmire

fixed

quagmire · 02-06-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake

fixed

Thanks. I still haven't figured out how to embed here. The other forum I go to is so much easier.

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Russian325is Private First Class 26 Rep 161 Posts Drives: 335i '08 E92 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	Of course...cause MS flight simulator's water physics are the same as RL. Given the fact that it was programmed to be used for emergency water landings.
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quagmire I am Gundam 197 Rep 1,211 Posts Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I took off and landed on an aircraft carrier with a 737 in X-Plane. So I am ready to do it in real life. Also in X-Plane my 737 has an anchor.
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quagmire I am Gundam 197 Rep 1,211 Posts Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	It's not that hard to ditch. So I agree with Limited. Piece of cake. Just hold in ground effect to bleed off more speed and wait for it start to go down to enter the flare which helps to further bleed off the airspeed.
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