Help! How is this style of photography done?

frankzlin79 · 01-22-2010, 03:11 PM

The car appears bright and vibrant. The background is a gloom,y dull, near black and white but not quite, with small hints of color. What camera settings are used? What are the processing steps taken in Photoshop?

Keep in mind, I'm very new to photography and photoshop so please keep explanations to laymen's terms! I have a Nikon D5000 and Photoshop CS4, btw.

Thanks for any input!

bigaltech · 01-22-2010, 04:55 PM

Not sure of settings for camera, I'm sure
you can right-click, save as and open in a photo program that displays the parameters of the photo such as iso, fstop, etcc.. Background could be a gradient tool or just clouds and the colors een modified/balanced/toned.. Many different techniques can be used. Those particular pics you best asking the owner what they used..

Your best bet in photoshoots, generally are overcast, back to sunlight, and use a tripod, test different settings to see what results you get. Compare it to an auto picture and your manual pics..

Hope this helps a little

anthony @ eas · 01-22-2010, 05:07 PM

One way to do something like that is:

1. Open photo in PS
2. Add a new layer on top of it
3. Make that new layer an "Overlay"
4. Using black and white brushes (black to darken, white to brighten) at varying opacity, paint the image in the overlay layer to get the exposures you want. Make sure to not make it obvious (the photos you posted have really bad halo effects around the areas that were touched.)
5. You will also want to sponge out some saturation in the background or paint a layer mask on a desaturated layer.

ichiban · 01-22-2010, 05:45 PM

^+1

frankzlin79 · 01-22-2010, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthony @ eas

One way to do something like that is:

1. Open photo in PS
2. Add a new layer on top of it
3. Make that new layer an "Overlay"
4. Using black and white brushes (black to darken, white to brighten) at varying opacity, paint the image in the overlay layer to get the exposures you want. Make sure to not make it obvious (the photos you posted have really bad halo effects around the areas that were touched.)
5. You will also want to sponge out some saturation in the background or paint a layer mask on a desaturated layer.

Yeah! That's the type of response I was looking for. Now, all I have to do is figure out what the hell you just said by playing with the tools!

Anybody else have any techniques they'd like to share in Photoshop?

M_Six · 01-22-2010, 11:16 PM

If you have Photoshop, open the full color image and under the Layer menu choose New Adjustment Layer and then Hue/Saturation. In that layer slide the saturation slider until you get the relative dullness you want of the background. Then choose an appropriate eraser brush size and "erase" the car. You'll see the original bright colors coming through.

This took about 3 minutes.

frankzlin79 · 01-23-2010, 03:12 AM

M_Six: Ok, I was able to do everything you said and get the saturation slider to the saturation point I want. Then, I select the Eraser tool and try to erase the car, nothing happens. Which layer should I be in when using the Eraser tool? The original Background or my Hue/Saturation layer? If I'm in the Hue/Saturation layer, I cannot erase anything. If I'm in the background layer, I erase everything turning everything solid white.

frankzlin79 · 01-23-2010, 03:38 AM

Thanks for the help. I did it a different way. I first made a duplicate layer from the original picture. On this duplicated layer, I clicked "IMAGE" and chose "Hue/Saturation." I turned the Saturation down to the left. Then I clicked on the Erasure tool and "erased" the car from said duplicated layer. I played around with the curves a little bit on the main background layer. I did this in only 15 min!

remmib · 01-23-2010, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankzlin79

M_Six: Ok, I was able to do everything you said and get the saturation slider to the saturation point I want. Then, I select the Eraser tool and try to erase the car, nothing happens. Which layer should I be in when using the Eraser tool? The original Background or my Hue/Saturation layer? If I'm in the Hue/Saturation layer, I cannot erase anything. If I'm in the background layer, I erase everything turning everything solid white.

You don't use the eraser tool, but the brush tool.

M_Six · 01-23-2010, 10:43 AM

I don't know, I've been using the Eraser tool in the New Adjustment-Hue/Saturation layer. The directions were in a Digital Photographer mag I bought. I'm no PS guru, so I can't tell you why it works differently for others. Maybe different versions of PS?

Still, as long as you got it to work. Looks sharp.

remmib · 01-23-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M_Six

I don't know, I've been using the Eraser tool in the New Adjustment-Hue/Saturation layer. The directions were in a Digital Photographer mag I bought. I'm no PS guru, so I can't tell you why it works differently for others. Maybe different versions of PS?

Still, as long as you got it to work. Looks sharp.

I just did a quick test and both works.

But the trick is that when you use the eraser tool the foreground color needs to be white, but when using the brush tool, the foreground color has to be black.

UdubBadger · 01-25-2010, 02:29 AM

there is also a preset in hue/satuation called "old style" that does it for you nicely.
(example #1 not that its a good photo or anything).

Other option would be leave the saturation alone on the back ground and just decrease the vibrance. (example #2 - used -85 vibrance)

last but not least the tonal range (mid tone contrast) looks high on his photos (example 3 - added midtone contrast from example 2)

UdubBadger · 01-25-2010, 02:33 AM

BTW frankzlin those originals are also probably HDR's.

Andrew@ET · 01-25-2010, 02:52 AM

They are hdr's

Get a program called photomatix

Set your camera up in bracket mode to take -2 0 +2 exposures

(if you only have one picture you can make them in photoshop or lightroom)

open up photomatix and upload the 3 images hit make hdr and your pretty much done use the sliders to make it how you want it.

From there you can go to photoshop and do more but you get the idea.

For a full how to go to www.hdrcreme.com and click the how to at the top

here is one i did today

TL · 01-25-2010, 05:04 PM

Def agree those first 2 pics are HDR

frankzlin79 · 01-26-2010, 11:53 AM

Thanks for the tips. Photoshop CS4 can also create HDR pics by merging three exposure originals into one image. I'm not impressed with the CS4 HDR capability, but that's probably because I don't know what I'm doing. The HDR generated images I make from Photoshop seem to be dull. I haven't tried photomatix before.

- Paul - · 01-26-2010, 11:59 AM

Photomatix can do it with one raw aswell with fantastic results.

radiantm3 · 01-26-2010, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankzlin79

Thanks for the tips. Photoshop CS4 can also create HDR pics by merging three exposure originals into one image. I'm not impressed with the CS4 HDR capability, but that's probably because I don't know what I'm doing. The HDR generated images I make from Photoshop seem to be dull. I haven't tried photomatix before.

That's because Photoshop doesn't allow you to do any tonal mapping. It just creates the 32-bit image.

Andrew@ET · 01-26-2010, 01:23 PM

Correct after you make thr hdr you need to do the tone mapping .

Photomatix has a free trial..

UdubBadger · 01-26-2010, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@EMS

Correct after you make thr hdr you need to do the tone mapping .

Photomatix has a free trial..

yeah but its watermaked to hell when you export.

Andrew@ET · 01-26-2010, 02:13 PM

well I think we all know the ways to get around that .... hint hint

UdubBadger · 01-26-2010, 02:45 PM

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anthony @ eas 318 Rep 3,635 Posts Drives: R56 Cooper S Join Date: May 2009 Location: 4015 E Leaverton Court, Anahiem, CA 92807 iTrader: (0)	One way to do something like that is: 1. Open photo in PS 2. Add a new layer on top of it 3. Make that new layer an "Overlay" 4. Using black and white brushes (black to darken, white to brighten) at varying opacity, paint the image in the overlay layer to get the exposures you want. Make sure to not make it obvious (the photos you posted have really bad halo effects around the areas that were touched.) 5. You will also want to sponge out some saturation in the background or paint a layer mask on a desaturated layer.
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M_Six Free Thinker 19304 Rep 7,550 Posts Drives: 2016 MB GLC300 4matic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foothills of Mt Level iTrader: (0)	If you have Photoshop, open the full color image and under the Layer menu choose New Adjustment Layer and then Hue/Saturation. In that layer slide the saturation slider until you get the relative dullness you want of the background. Then choose an appropriate eraser brush size and "erase" the car. You'll see the original bright colors coming through. This took about 3 minutes. __________________ Mark markj.pics "Life is uncertain, eat bacon now." -UncleWede
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frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 270 Rep 1,699 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	M_Six: Ok, I was able to do everything you said and get the saturation slider to the saturation point I want. Then, I select the Eraser tool and try to erase the car, nothing happens. Which layer should I be in when using the Eraser tool? The original Background or my Hue/Saturation layer? If I'm in the Hue/Saturation layer, I cannot erase anything. If I'm in the background layer, I erase everything turning everything solid white.
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frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 270 Rep 1,699 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Thanks for the help. I did it a different way. I first made a duplicate layer from the original picture. On this duplicated layer, I clicked "IMAGE" and chose "Hue/Saturation." I turned the Saturation down to the left. Then I clicked on the Erasure tool and "erased" the car from said duplicated layer. I played around with the curves a little bit on the main background layer. I did this in only 15 min!
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M_Six Free Thinker 19304 Rep 7,550 Posts Drives: 2016 MB GLC300 4matic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foothills of Mt Level iTrader: (0)	I don't know, I've been using the Eraser tool in the New Adjustment-Hue/Saturation layer. The directions were in a Digital Photographer mag I bought. I'm no PS guru, so I can't tell you why it works differently for others. Maybe different versions of PS? Still, as long as you got it to work. Looks sharp. __________________ Mark markj.pics "Life is uncertain, eat bacon now." -UncleWede
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 194 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	They are hdr's Get a program called photomatix Set your camera up in bracket mode to take -2 0 +2 exposures (if you only have one picture you can make them in photoshop or lightroom) open up photomatix and upload the 3 images hit make hdr and your pretty much done use the sliders to make it how you want it. From there you can go to photoshop and do more but you get the idea. For a full how to go to www.hdrcreme.com and click the how to at the top here is one i did today
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frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 270 Rep 1,699 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Thanks for the tips. Photoshop CS4 can also create HDR pics by merging three exposure originals into one image. I'm not impressed with the CS4 HDR capability, but that's probably because I don't know what I'm doing. The HDR generated images I make from Photoshop seem to be dull. I haven't tried photomatix before.
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 194 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	Correct after you make thr hdr you need to do the tone mapping . Photomatix has a free trial..
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