HELP....Land Rover Owners!

chris s · 07-03-2010, 12:49 AM

I'm looking at used Land Rovers from 15 to 20k in value. Looks like i could get a 05, 06 LR3 in that range...or an 03,04 Range Rover with mileage around 70 to 80k. Mileage is lower on the LR3.

My question is...what are these like with regard to repairs and maintenance? Costly? Relatively reliable?

I'm looking to replace my toyota FJ Cruiser which was recently totaled. That thing never saw a shop other than an oil change over 3 plus years of ownership. Bulletproof motor! I want something similar but with more luxury.

Can anyone chime in?

thanks

E90RYANJB · 07-03-2010, 07:30 PM

Try LandRoverforum.com.

I had an '06 RRSS and had a lot of problems with it.
Mostly electrical.Not too happy with it and sold it after 10 months of ownership.Not sure about other LR models and some earlier models of the RR tho.

SpaceSaddle335 · 07-29-2010, 04:25 PM

Take the money and light it on fire. Horrible reliablity.

chris s · 07-29-2010, 04:32 PM

Thanks guys!

abisson · 07-29-2010, 04:32 PM

My dad actually gave back our LR FL to the dealership 2 months before the lease was up. Thats how bad he was tired of it.

But God the look great. They really need to get some reliability going.

Feyd · 07-29-2010, 05:32 PM

I know they break down alot... but isn't it land rover that's always touting that something like 95% of the ones that have been sold are still on the road?

Of course the spin doctors could have worked that statement over with some fine print at the bottom of the add that said something like "Statement based on MY09 results".

General consensus is that they aren't very reliable... especially anything before 2005-2006 (not sure why on these dates, but I've heard this).

The people that I know who own them... friggin love them. But ALWAYS tell me that they aren't for 1 car familys because they are always in the shop.

*edit*
And the Freelander was junk from the beginning... but I have heard this from A LOT of Freelander owners.

The_DDub · 07-30-2010, 01:57 PM

Our 00 Disco Series 2 is still going strong at a lil over 100K mileage.

If you are looking at cars in the 70K+ mile range, here are some tips:

1. Ask when the coil packs/plug wires and plugs were changed. Its a BITCH to DIY since the coil packs are behind and I mean BEHIND the intake mainfold. It's really behind and underneath the IM and firewall, a pain to get to and I have thick forearms, no way I could do the coil packs myself unless I removed the IM. You will know it hasn't been done if the car idles rough, hesitates, etc. Relatively inexpensive fix.

I've had no major problems with our 00 other than the "three amigos" lights. HDC, TC and ABS lights on. I just live with it. I forget what I need to replace, but the part costs like $900 OEM but you can get it from 250-300 from a good contact.

My only other gripe about the car is that the keyfobs are CRAP, the rubber buttons broke on them and the fobs are around $80 on ebay but ONLY the dealer can reprogram them.

I updated the HU in mine with an Alpine CDA-9833 since I wanted ipod connectivity into the factory amp. I had to use a low input regulator from the speaker line outs to the factory speaker line ins.

M3Alpine · 08-02-2010, 09:08 PM

i had an 07 rrss before my M and it was nothing but problems ! i would stay away !!

jopa489 · 08-02-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaceSaddle335

Take the money and light it on fire. Horrible reliablity.

Big +1. I have no idea why people still buy those things. There are MUCH better SUVs out there, for a much better price, with much better reliability. Do yourself a favor and get another FJ. There's a reason why used LR's are dirt cheap.

Ramos · 08-03-2010, 06:12 PM

They are cheaper than you think.. My buddy just picked up an 07 LR3 with 40K miles for $22K ... Can't comment on reliability though

JC316 · 09-08-2010, 08:44 PM

I used to own a LR. Sold mine about 2 years ago. From my personal experience and the experience of several friends, LR's are expensive to maintain and are not entirely reliable. I'd only suggest it to people who have some mechanic experience. It is a nice ride though. With lot's of space. Great for mudding.

TikoV · 09-09-2010, 02:17 PM

I can only speak of reliability issues of vehicles bought in UK and inparticular mine. My 08 RRsport, has been in for three bits of warranty work since I've bought it. Electrical and suspension faults have been the bain of my life, however my dealer has always been helpful and understanding.

As for Discos, I'm told they are lot more reliable than FFRR or RRS. Issues are similar throughout the range I'm led to believe but most of these faults are pretty much addressed within the first years of ownership.

If I was to buy another one, I'd go on the forums and check for all the TSB (Technical Service Bulletins) for that particular model and cross check to see the model you're enquring about has had the appropriate work carried out.

Good luck and don't be put off by buying one.

bmpower255 · 09-09-2010, 04:04 PM

I'd pass.

CIGARGUY · 09-10-2010, 02:30 PM

Coming from a former Land Rover service advisor, they are SUPER expensive to maintain and always need something. The "average" Joe doesn't need to own one if his expectations are to be able to hit the key and have it start, run, drive, and function properly consistently. If you have money to spare, and another car to drive, it could be the right one for you. Personally, I love them. There is an allure to them, but I can't justity the cost. I'll stick to my BMW.

BobsM3Coupe · 09-11-2010, 03:05 AM

[QUOTE=Feyd;7742985]I know they break down alot... but isn't it land rover that's always touting that something like 95% of the ones that have been sold are still on the road?

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And the other 5% made it home.

Heard that about some other make but sounds like it would apply here.

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chris s Major General 1364 Rep 6,974 Posts Drives: 2022 Dravit G80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York iTrader: (13)	HELP....Land Rover Owners! I'm looking at used Land Rovers from 15 to 20k in value. Looks like i could get a 05, 06 LR3 in that range...or an 03,04 Range Rover with mileage around 70 to 80k. Mileage is lower on the LR3. My question is...what are these like with regard to repairs and maintenance? Costly? Relatively reliable? I'm looking to replace my toyota FJ Cruiser which was recently totaled. That thing never saw a shop other than an oil change over 3 plus years of ownership. Bulletproof motor! I want something similar but with more luxury. Can anyone chime in? thanks __________________ 2024 BRG/Kyalami M3cx - Dinan mid w VC, AST, Spacers, BBS LMs Gone but not forgotten: 2022 Dravit/Fiona M3cx, 2016 Indiv F80 M3 - SMB\|Amaro, 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, 2008 AW e92 M3 6MT, 2003 AW/red e46 M3, 1998 Hellrot/modena e36 M3, 1998 Black/black e36 M3
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E90RYANJB ............ 32 Rep 1,025 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (6)	Try LandRoverforum.com. I had an '06 RRSS and had a lot of problems with it. Mostly electrical.Not too happy with it and sold it after 10 months of ownership.Not sure about other LR models and some earlier models of the RR tho.
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SpaceSaddle335 Private First Class 19 Rep 181 Posts Drives: 07 335i Space/Saddle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (0)	Take the money and light it on fire. Horrible reliablity.
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abisson Canada FTW. 196 Rep 519 Posts Drives: 2016 VW R - Stg 2 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maple Syrup Country iTrader: (0)	My dad actually gave back our LR FL to the dealership 2 months before the lease was up. Thats how bad he was tired of it. But God the look great. They really need to get some reliability going.
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Feyd Major 366 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: a DEEZZULL Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (2)	I know they break down alot... but isn't it land rover that's always touting that something like 95% of the ones that have been sold are still on the road? Of course the spin doctors could have worked that statement over with some fine print at the bottom of the add that said something like "Statement based on MY09 results". General consensus is that they aren't very reliable... especially anything before 2005-2006 (not sure why on these dates, but I've heard this). The people that I know who own them... friggin love them. But ALWAYS tell me that they aren't for 1 car familys because they are always in the shop. edit And the Freelander was junk from the beginning... but I have heard this from A LOT of Freelander owners.
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The_DDub Mmmm torque 19 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Like a Boss, hard and fast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Livermore, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	Our 00 Disco Series 2 is still going strong at a lil over 100K mileage. If you are looking at cars in the 70K+ mile range, here are some tips: 1. Ask when the coil packs/plug wires and plugs were changed. Its a BITCH to DIY since the coil packs are behind and I mean BEHIND the intake mainfold. It's really behind and underneath the IM and firewall, a pain to get to and I have thick forearms, no way I could do the coil packs myself unless I removed the IM. You will know it hasn't been done if the car idles rough, hesitates, etc. Relatively inexpensive fix. I've had no major problems with our 00 other than the "three amigos" lights. HDC, TC and ABS lights on. I just live with it. I forget what I need to replace, but the part costs like $900 OEM but you can get it from 250-300 from a good contact. My only other gripe about the car is that the keyfobs are CRAP, the rubber buttons broke on them and the fobs are around $80 on ebay but ONLY the dealer can reprogram them. I updated the HU in mine with an Alpine CDA-9833 since I wanted ipod connectivity into the factory amp. I had to use a low input regulator from the speaker line outs to the factory speaker line ins. __________________ Monaco Blue E90 328i with Nav, Sport, Premium and Comfort Access packages, 6FL with iPod cable SAE spec Depo with HIDs and HID fogs Depo AE replacement Album Last edited by The_DDub; 07-30-2010 at 01:59 PM.. Reason: I saw that the OP is looking at LR3s and not S2s
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M3Alpine Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,510 Posts Drives: M4 AW/SO Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (11)	i had an 07 rrss before my M and it was nothing but problems ! i would stay away !! __________________ 2002 AW/IR : Sold 2004 AW/BLK : Sold 2009 AW/FR : Sold 2015 AW/SO
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Ramos Colonel 876 Rep 2,908 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (7)	They are cheaper than you think.. My buddy just picked up an 07 LR3 with 40K miles for $22K ... Can't comment on reliability though
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JC316 Second Lieutenant 76 Rep 293 Posts Drives: 2021 X5 M50i \| 2009 E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seoul, Korea iTrader: (2)	I used to own a LR. Sold mine about 2 years ago. From my personal experience and the experience of several friends, LR's are expensive to maintain and are not entirely reliable. I'd only suggest it to people who have some mechanic experience. It is a nice ride though. With lot's of space. Great for mudding.
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TikoV Captain 33 Rep 664 Posts Drives: BMW 335d/X5 40d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	I can only speak of reliability issues of vehicles bought in UK and inparticular mine. My 08 RRsport, has been in for three bits of warranty work since I've bought it. Electrical and suspension faults have been the bain of my life, however my dealer has always been helpful and understanding. As for Discos, I'm told they are lot more reliable than FFRR or RRS. Issues are similar throughout the range I'm led to believe but most of these faults are pretty much addressed within the first years of ownership. If I was to buy another one, I'd go on the forums and check for all the TSB (Technical Service Bulletins) for that particular model and cross check to see the model you're enquring about has had the appropriate work carried out. Good luck and don't be put off by buying one. __________________
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bmpower255 Banned 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 02 330i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Brixton, London, UK iTrader: (0)	I'd pass.
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CIGARGUY Second Lieutenant 22 Rep 290 Posts Drives: '06 e90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (unfortunantly) iTrader: (3)	Coming from a former Land Rover service advisor, they are SUPER expensive to maintain and always need something. The "average" Joe doesn't need to own one if his expectations are to be able to hit the key and have it start, run, drive, and function properly consistently. If you have money to spare, and another car to drive, it could be the right one for you. Personally, I love them. There is an allure to them, but I can't justity the cost. I'll stick to my BMW. __________________ Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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BobsM3Coupe Brigadier General 1558 Rep 4,033 Posts Drives: X5MC Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California iTrader: (4)	[QUOTE=Feyd;7742985]I know they break down alot... but isn't it land rover that's always touting that something like 95% of the ones that have been sold are still on the road? QUOTE] And the other 5% made it home. Heard that about some other make but sounds like it would apply here.
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