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      11-02-2010, 10:41 AM   #1
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Buying a new 60" HDTV - LED or Plasma?

So my dad is in the market for a new TV for our basement and he basically told me to find something in the $1500-$2000 range that will look nicely mounted on the wall. It has to be 60" or bigger.

The two models I have my eyes on are;

Samsung UN60C6300 60" LED ~ $2,079.00
Panasonic TC-P65S2 65" Plasma ~ $1,749.00

We have a Panasonic 42" Plasma in our den area and the picture is amazing, especially on Blu-Ray. I love how vibrant and clear the display is on Plasma but the only drawback is how big and heavy they are compared to LED/LCD.

I was never a fan of LED/LCD but the fact that most of the newer models are super thin and the display on LED is very crisp and vivid convinced me to look into them a little more.

I know both have their pro's and con's so maybe someone on here has first hand experience with TV's in this size range.
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      11-02-2010, 10:43 AM   #2
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I was in the market a month ago and looked at both TV's. I went with a 58 inch plasma. I love it!
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Depends...if it's light controlled room, LED sets right now don't match the blacks of a plasma, but they're "brighter." I'd go w/a plasma, but read up on the S2 and check to see if the rising black issue has been resolved in newer sets. If buying online, get in on the Panny EPP (employee purchase prog) deals which are generally better than most online deals. You can sign up by googling/slickdeals.
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Definitely Plasma...
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      11-02-2010, 01:16 PM   #8
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I have both the Panasonic TC-P42S2 (which is the 42" model of that exact plasma) and a 55" Sony XBR8 LED LCD.

Blu-rays look amazing on both (slight edge to the Sony LED), but I prefer video games on the plasma. Black levels are MUCH better on the Sony (local dimming RGB backlights that can shut off entirely) and the plasma is brighter, but not by much.

You can PM me if you have any specific questions.
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LED for sure. Plasma is old school. Do any manufacturers still make plasma tv's?

The days of having a 100lb plasma that is 6" thick are over. I just got a Samsung 55 LED that is 1" thick and weighs less than 50lbs. The black levels are great. Anyone who argues otherwise either hasn't seen the new led tv's or would think their plasma is the best no matter what they see.
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Pioneer Kuro (Elite if possible), try to find one somewhere. It's a plasma, and even till today, every new TV is still graded against it. Some manufacturers have come close (Panasonic especially, but that's most likely because they bought Pioneers patents after Pioneer got out of TV's), but none are there yet.
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Pioneer Kuro (Elite if possible), try to find one somewhere. It's a plasma, and even till today, every new TV is still graded against it. Some manufacturers have come close (Panasonic especially, but that's most likely because they bought Pioneers patents after Pioneer got out of TV's), but none are there yet.
Yeah, but ours cost like $5,000 for a 60" Kuro Elite. That's a lot more than $2,000
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LED for sure. Plasma is old school. Do any manufacturers still make plasma tv's?

The days of having a 100lb plasma that is 6" thick are over. I just got a Samsung 55 LED that is 1" thick and weighs less than 50lbs. The black levels are great. Anyone who argues otherwise either hasn't seen the new led tv's or would think their plasma is the best no matter what they see.
Plasma's are still the highest rated sets on the market. Panasonic is the leader of plasma's with samsung and LG not far behind. Plasma sets are 3.5" deep(some even less). Ive seen new tv's and plasma's are still the top of the food chain when it comes to PQ.

You have no idea what your talking about...
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Plasma's are still the highest rated sets on the market. Panasonic is the leader of plasma's with samsung and LG not far behind. Plasma sets are 3.5" deep(some even less). Ive seen new tv's and plasma's are still the top of the food chain when it comes to PQ.

You have no idea what your talking about...
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Panny Plasma unless you are gaming with it

they are releasing a 100" plasma soon, that looks crazy clear
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      11-02-2010, 02:16 PM   #14
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Pioneer Kuro (Elite if possible), try to find one somewhere. It's a plasma, and even till today, every new TV is still graded against it. Some manufacturers have come close (Panasonic especially, but that's most likely because they bought Pioneers patents after Pioneer got out of TV's), but none are there yet.
this

Never seen picture that matched the Elite my parents had
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Plasma = better blacks and less motion artifacts.

Bought our current 50" Pioneer Kuro Elite last year at Best Buy when Pioneer announced that it was getting out of the plasma business. BB marked it down to $1,800 (normally $3,500). Even though we already owned a 50" Fujitsu plasma that was a few years old (no slouch itself), I convinced the wife that this was a deal that was too good to pass up.
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Plasma = better blacks and less motion artifacts.

Bought our current 50" Pioneer Kuro Elite last year at Best Buy when Pioneer announced that it was getting out of the plasma business. BB marked it down to $1,800. Even though we already owned a 50" Fujitsu plasma that was a few years old (no slouch itself), I convinced the wife that this was a deal that was too good to pass up.
Oh fuck me, if I knew that I would've bought one no doubt.
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Oh fuck me, if I knew that I would've bought one no doubt.
I found out about the sale on the last day of the sale, through AVSForum.com. Was just randomly browsing (like I do here) ...

Edit: BTW, everytime I go to BB, I still go to the Magnolia section to see if they had any Elites still on sale. Usually they are at full price, but I do remember once or twice they had the sale. I guess they still have some in inventory? If I see it again, I'll post something up on OT. May be store specific though ...
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wtf

Plasma is the panel that generates color AND light

LED is the back-light that's pure white. You're comparing apples to oranges.

In terms of color VIVIDNESS, yes the plasma wins, since it actually GENERATES light.

LED-backlit TV still use an LCD panel.... the LED shines pure white light through LCD panel that gives it color

On a smaller TV, plasma sucks because plasma pixels are bigger, and thus you achieve a lower resolution. On big panels it really doesn't matter. All that matters is the ASIC behind the TV that does the signal processing.
Different companies feature different pull-up technologies. As far as picture quality goes, Sony XBRs have been the industry tops for years.

Please don't listen to the saleman's bullshit.
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I found out about the sale on the last day of the sale, through AVSForum.com. Was just randomly browsing (like I do here) ...

Edit: BTW, everytime I go to BB, I still go to the Magnolia section to see if they had any Elites still on sale. Usually they are at full price, but I do remember once or twice they had the sale. I guess they still have some in inventory? If I see it again, I'll post something up on OT. May be store specific though ...
I always stop by the Magnolia area as well. Damn they look good, especially in the low light room. You can really see the difference in the black levels.
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Please don't listen to the saleman's bullshit.
Actually, if you go to BB and other B&M stores, they push LCDs/LEDs over plasmas. All my information, I get from AVSforum.com (and my own eyes).
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they are releasing a 100" plasma soon, that looks crazy clear
That's what i have..after you burn it in properly and calibrate it right..looks killer...
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That's what i have..after you burn it in properly and calibrate it right..looks killer...
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I have the 800U panny plasma from a year back. It's bad ass. ranked 2nd to the kuro elite for the longest time till recent new releases which was also a panny model.
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