GTI (MKV) vs. 330i (E90)

ChineseGuy · 02-14-2007, 12:36 AM

which one is faster do you think?

stock vs. stock

i was in the GTI forum and got into an arguement for those members, mainly becuase they beleive the GTI is faster...

i tried to explain to them and they come up with some 0-60 times that even i haven't seen before, someone said it hits 60 in 6 sec flat....haha

now even i'm confused...

personally i own both the cars, and i can tell the 330 is faster

but i just needed some comments about this....

canucklion · 02-14-2007, 12:49 AM

why dont' you get one of your friends/family to race you? you drive the 330i in one race, then GTI the next, to rule out any driver variability

shipill · 02-14-2007, 01:13 AM

I drove both , 330 is faster .

NFS · 02-14-2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

which one is faster do you think?

stock vs. stock

i was in the GTI forum and got into an arguement for those members, mainly becuase they beleive the GTI is faster...

i tried to explain to them and they come up with some 0-60 times that even i haven't seen before, someone said it hits 60 in 6 sec flat....haha

now even i'm confused...

personally i own both the cars, and i can tell the 330 is faster

but i just needed some comments about this....

The 330i is faster - both in a straight line and on a track

These are EVO Magazine test lap times for the West Circuit at Bedford Autodrome in the UK.

BMW 330i msport = 1.30.00
(Mark V) VW Golf R32 = 1.32.55
(Mark V) VW Golf GTi = 1.33.75

The GTi does remarkably well though and pretty much makes the r32 redundant.

The standard GTI takes 7.2 secs to reach 62 mph which improves to 6.9 secs with DSG.

The 330i gets there in 6.3 secs.

Case closed

canucklion · 02-14-2007, 07:06 AM

^ there you go CHineseguy, post that in the GTI forum

imolazhp_ci · 02-14-2007, 07:56 AM

the new DSG MKV's do get to 60 in right about 6 flat. up to 6.3 though. they have launch control and pretty impressive. i'd say the 0-60 would be about even...all things considered, but as speeds increased the 330i would start to walk on it hard, turbo cars inherently have a very poor top end. at least comparatively.

porksoda · 02-14-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needforspeed

The 330i is faster - both in a straight line and on a track

These are EVO Magazine test lap times for the West Circuit at Bedford Autodrome in the UK.

BMW 330i msport = 1.30.00
(Mark V) VW Golf R32 = 1.32.55
(Mark V) VW Golf GTi = 1.33.75

The GTi does remarkably well though and pretty much makes the r32 redundant.

The standard GTI takes 7.2 secs to reach 62 mph which improves to 6.9 secs with DSG.

The 330i gets there in 6.3 secs.

Case closed

Thats a MKIV R32. not MKV.

NFS · 02-14-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by porksoda

Thats a MKIV R32. not MKV.

You could be right ...

Anyway the GTi is definitely the Mark V

EDIT ... just checked the latest edition of EVO and I'm pretty certain the R32 time is for the current model.

They have tested both - since the mark iv version was discontinued in 04 I think it's unlikely that they would still post the time for the old car. Especially as it is flagged as the 'best in class'.

I should point out that this is a REALLY flattering lap time for the 330i. That's why I like it

porksoda · 02-14-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

You could be right ...

Anyway the GTi is definitely the Mark V

EDIT ... just checked the latest edition of EVO and I'm pretty certain the R32 time is for the current model.

They have tested both - since the mark iv version was discontinued in 04 I think it's unlikely that they would still post the time for the old car. Especially as it is flagged as the 'best in class'.

I should point out that this is a REALLY flattering lap time for the 330i. That's why I like it

Reason being since on the scan you posted it doesnt say R32 V whereas it does for GTI

Also the R32 isnt wasnt avail for tests of sorts yet or maybe now but not a month ago.

bavarian19 · 02-14-2007, 04:21 PM

Let your friends talk all they want. They are just trying to tear you down for buying a better car.

... and really... who cares that much???

just4kickz · 02-14-2007, 04:39 PM

haha reminds me of the 350z forum... online arguments of which car is faster/better...

NFS · 02-14-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by porksoda

Reason being since on the scan you posted it doesnt say R32 V whereas it does for GTI

Also the R32 isnt wasnt avail for tests of sorts yet or maybe now but not a month ago.

EVO have a long term Mk V R32 on their fleet at the moment. It's been on sale in the UK since Nov 05.

porksoda · 02-14-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

EVO have a long term Mk V R32 on their fleet at the moment. It's been on sale in the UK since Nov 05.

ah didnt realise it was an uk publication.

well the r32 is a big dissapointment as the new one @ 250hp is just not what it should have been .... 300 is where they shoudl have taken it or atleast 275.

Well everyone is gonnna say thier car is better. 330i is one of the finer pieces of machinery.

NFS · 02-14-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porksoda

ah didnt realise it was an uk publication.

well the r32 is a big dissapointment as the new one @ 250hp is just not what it should have been .... 300 is where they shoudl have taken it or atleast 275.

Well everyone is gonnna say thier car is better. 330i is one of the finer pieces of machinery.

The r32 was on my shopping list - as was the GTi.

In the end the 330i won out - I have a RWD thing.

ChineseGuy · 02-14-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

^ there you go CHineseguy, post that in the GTI forum

i DID post that, strangely, no one replyed to that yet

DFW_M · 02-14-2007, 11:16 PM

325/8 is faster than the GTI (2.0T).
R32 is a different story...

ChineseGuy · 02-14-2007, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i

325/8 is faster than the GTI (2.0T).
R32 is a different story...

i think 328 is faster, but 325 too?

DFW_M · 02-14-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

i think 328 is faster, but 325 too?

now you think that 15 extra horses make 328 really that faster than 325...maybe 0.1 sec 0-60 and 0.2 sec 1/4...

Zeiss · 02-15-2007, 12:22 AM

abit

HOW IS THE CLS 55AMG SLOWER THEN THE POLO GTI? AM I MISSING SOMETHING? also boxter S faster than murcielago? ?

imolazhp_ci · 02-15-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32

abit

HOW IS THE CLS 55AMG SLOWER THEN THE POLO GTI? AM I MISSING SOMETHING? also boxter S faster than murcielago? ?

to answer the first question... because it's a mercedes. to answer the second, the boxster handles great and the murcielago is 4wd which handles poorly on a track.

ChineseGuy · 02-15-2007, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i

now you think that 15 extra horses make 328 really that faster than 325...maybe 0.1 sec 0-60 and 0.2 sec 1/4...

according to the 0-60 from bmw, 328 gets almost the same 0-60 times as the 330

Zeiss · 02-15-2007, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

to answer the first question... because it's a mercedes. to answer the second, the boxster handles great and the murcielago is 4wd which handles poorly on a track.

If you've driven the car you would'nt be saying that

. That still makes no sense, a mini faster then a SL55 AMG?

Someone get some pictures of this track, i'm dieing to see

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