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      04-26-2012, 05:41 PM   #1
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Enlighten me on tire stretching.

I understand this is my view but I dont get any pros to stretching tires? Someone want to chime in and help me out?
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      04-26-2012, 05:45 PM   #2
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The point is there is no point.
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      04-26-2012, 05:48 PM   #3
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First rule of tire stretching: don't talk about tire stretching.
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      04-26-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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Yeah if you're going to do it, just do it, the only reason to do it is to make wheels that are too big fit
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      04-26-2012, 06:50 PM   #5
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Yeah if you're going to do it, just do it, the only reason to do it is to make wheels that are too big fit

Yea.. Not gonna stretch here.
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      04-26-2012, 06:51 PM   #6
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The point is there is no point.
This makes the most sense.
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      04-26-2012, 07:35 PM   #7
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      04-26-2012, 08:06 PM   #8
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First rule of tire stretching: don't talk about tire stretching.
lol ...

but the point is to make wide wheels/aggressive offsets fit without hitting the fender liner. I had slightly stretched tires before and never again. Stretching tires leaves the outer lip of the rim exposed so very prone to rock chips etc ...
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not to mention the lost in handling characterisitcs
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      04-26-2012, 09:50 PM   #10
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It does look really good on a dropped e30 and on a golf
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First rule of tire stretching: don't talk about tire stretching.
Tire stretching was the beginning, now it's moved out of the basement, it's called Project Mayhem...
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      04-26-2012, 11:37 PM   #12
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I understand this is my view but I dont get any pros to stretching tires? Someone want to chime in and help me out?
It's rarely done for performance reasons except in specialized situations (autocross) and even then by a small subset of that crowd. Stretching tires can improve responsiveness since the sidewall is less prone to flexing while cornering.

But in 99.97% of applications I see it's done as a result of the "hella flush" plague. E.g. all show, no go. Really kills me to see that crap done to a BMW. And I haven't even gotten started on lowering (let alone lowering springs).
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cost of tires too

225/40/18s cost like 130 where as 255/35/18s cost like 205
if you go through tires once a year.... well yeah

i think i'm going to put 225s on my 8.5 rear 162s along with 20mm spacers.
the truth is, you pay 50% more for another 3cm of tire. 225 fits up to a 9.5 inch wheel, and 255 is actually a little chunky on an 8.5

why will i "stretch" -barely- my rear tires next time i replace them? because i don't see the point in spending that much more for a little more grip in the back.
if anything, i'm looking forward to less understeer although i might offset some of the oversteer with the spacers.

slightly off topic, felt like sharing
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not to mention the lost in handling characterisitcs
No that is not always true .... see below:

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It's rarely done for performance reasons except in specialized situations (autocross) and even then by a small subset of that crowd. Stretching tires can improve responsiveness since the sidewall is less prone to flexing while cornering.

But in 99.97% of applications I see it's done as a result of the "hella flush" plague. E.g. all show
I agree with you 100% on this .... but is it really all that bad? I mean each person should mod to what they like as thats what modding is all about.

99% of o BMW owners will never use their cars to 1/3rd of their potential, and 99% of those that mod there cars without stretched will lower their cars so that the fender gap is even all around in turn throwing off the balance, not to mention not properly adjusting alignement specs.

With that said if you like the look go for it, if you dont then to each their own.
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      04-27-2012, 02:29 PM   #15
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Mad stance yo!!







And the "molded" body kit is just a bonus!
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And the "molded" body kit is just a bonus!
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I agree with you 100% on this .... but is it really all that bad? I mean each person should mod to what they like as thats what modding is all about.

99% of o BMW owners will never use their cars to 1/3rd of their potential, and 99% of those that mod there cars without stretched will lower their cars so that the fender gap is even all around in turn throwing off the balance, not to mention not properly adjusting alignement specs.

With that said if you like the look go for it, if you dont then to each their own.
You're right that it's not my business if people want to do it. Where I get annoyed is when it's done with ignorance of the risks that come with it. That lack of motivation to learn anything about what you're doing ... really grates on me.
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You're right that it's not my business if people want to do it. Where I get annoyed is when it's done with ignorance of the risks that come with it.
No I feel ya ... Im just playing Devils Advocate ...

I have ran stretched tires on my Mini cooper, and 335i but they where within limits.



Something like that Celica above is just retarded IMO, but if it makes the owner happy then good for him.
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Yours looks tasteful; not a stupid looking stretch where the rim is sticking out. I run stretched tires on my rear winter wheels (225 vs 255) because a staggered setup doesn't make sense in snow. Though it's hard to tell:



I do HPDEs several times a year and let's say it's been enlightening. Whenever I see people screwing with handling without knowing it ... agghh the ignorance. Rant over.
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      04-27-2012, 05:43 PM   #20
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That celiac looks like a giant can opener.
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Like mentioned before, alot of it also originated from the drift scene.

Its a huge debate even on drift forums but alot of the pros will run stretched tires to stiffen sidewall. (although some will argue you can fix that issue with tire pressure)

From the drifters point of view: its for cheaper tires, using used tires they use what they can get, "stiffer side wall", and for looks while being able to perform (because drifting is based on style).

From a regular DD point of view: its to fit wide tires under the fenders. I've done it before, but recently went more with performance as I've picked up doing some track days but I still respect the look. Its DEFINITELY popular in the younger crowd and is a "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" sort of thing..

Also, having a car lowered and wider wheels makes it more "aggresive".
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