335i PROcede vs S2000 uphill

E90ice · 09-21-2007, 01:06 AM

I raced a Honda S2000 on a steep uphill, from about 40-100mph and was only able to pull 2-3 cars on him. He looked stock, but you never know...

The S2000 weights about 2800 lbs. Driver had a female passanger.

The 335 weights about 3600 lbs + me 230 lbs + 50 lbs bag in my trunk.

When we got to a flat ground, he didn't want to race anymore.

I know the steep uphill must have worked against me (since my car is way heavier) but I'm still a little disapointed.

I was expecting to rape him.

Expired · 09-21-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

I raced a Honda S2000 on a steep uphill, from about 40-100mph and was only able to pull 2-3 cars on him. He looked stock, but you never know...

The S2000 weights about 2800 lbs. Driver had a female passanger.

The 335 weights about 3600 lbs + me 230 lbs + 50 lbs bag in my trunk.

When we got to a flat ground, he didn't want to race anymore.

I know the steep uphill must have worked against me (since my car is way heavier) but I'm still a little disapointed.

I was expecting to rape him.

In to rape then??

Why would you race up-hill??

-Nathan

E90ice · 09-21-2007, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Expired

In to rape then??

Why would you race up-hill??

-Nathan

Your question is kinda dumb. I raced him uphill because thats just the way it happened.

Expired · 09-21-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

Your question is kinda dumb. I raced him uphill because thats just the way it happened.

I don't believe in 'dumb questions'.
To me racing up a hill seems pretty dangerous, a lot more so than racing on a smooth/flat road.
To me it seems as though your 'ego' got in the way, or else you could have waited until you got up the hill.

-Nathan

E90ice · 09-21-2007, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Expired

I don't believe in 'dumb questions'.
To me racing up a hill seems pretty dangerous, a lot more so than racing on a smooth/flat road.
To me it seems as though your 'ego' got in the way, or else you could have waited until you got up the hill.

-Nathan

OK, thanks... Anyone else with a more intelligent argument?

Crea · 09-21-2007, 03:12 AM

i dont think it need a proceded 335i to rape a S2000... a stock 335i is more then enough lol

Andrew@ET · 09-21-2007, 05:08 AM

yea my 328 isnt much off a s2000 u should have ran away..

010101 · 09-21-2007, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Expired

I don't believe in 'dumb questions'.
To me racing up a hill seems pretty dangerous, a lot more so than racing on a smooth/flat road.
To me it seems as though your 'ego' got in the way, or else you could have waited until you got up the hill.

-Nathan

How is it more dangerous? It's slower and you can stop way faster

sflgator · 09-21-2007, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

I raced a Honda S2000 on a steep uphill, from about 40-100mph and was only able to pull 2-3 cars on him. He looked stock, but you never know...

The S2000 weights about 2800 lbs. Driver had a female passanger.

The 335 weights about 3600 lbs + me 230 lbs + 50 lbs bag in my trunk.

When we got to a flat ground, he didn't want to race anymore.

I know the steep uphill must have worked against me (since my car is way heavier) but I'm still a little disapointed.

I was expecting to rape him.

fyi -- some of those S2000 guys have F/I supercharger (which brings the car up to ~ 300BHP). My previous neighbor had a S/C S2000 and he was active in his local S2000 enthusiasts Forum and club. I'm not saying that this was absolutely the case, but if he was F/I, you would still pull on him in your PROcede 335i, but it would be much closer than if he were stock; my guess is that he was in fact F/I (and you would never know if you just ran with him on the hwy.).

renasis · 09-21-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 010101

How is it more dangerous? It's slower and you can stop way faster

+1

theDude · 09-21-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by renasis

+1

It's more dangerous because you have no idea what's over the crest of the hill.

ALPINE6SPD · 09-21-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by miamibusta69

yea my 328 isnt much off a s2000 u should have ran away..

yes it is. I sell BMWs (including a ton of 328i) all day and the car is not as fast as an s2000 trust me my Dad has one. It is also not close like you say. His car is faster than my 330i which is faster than your 328i.

phantom330 · 09-21-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

yes it is. I sell BMWs (including a ton of 328i) all day and the car is not as fast as an s2000 trust me my Dad has one. It is also not close like you say. His car is faster than my 330i which is faster than your 328i.

The 328 and the e46 330 are actually VERY close in stats, with actually the 328 maybe having a slight advantage. A 335i, even stock, should have no problem with a stock s2k.

Hawkeye · 09-21-2007, 04:45 PM

This is all good except for the fact that the S2000 can redline at 9000 so they may have to shift less? I am pretty sure an S2000 is much faster than a 328 though.

I recently raced a Mustang GT from 60-140 and only pulled < 1/2 car length on him so I guess you just never know. I was expecting to rape that pony.

lvwirelessguy · 09-21-2007, 05:25 PM

You have to drive the S2000 violently to get it to move at all. I had one for a minute, but it got tiresome very quickly

Kiemyster · 09-21-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

This is all good except for the fact that the S2000 can redline at 9000 so they may have to shift less? I am pretty sure an S2000 is much faster than a 328 though.

I recently raced a Mustang GT from 60-140 and only pulled < 1/2 car length on him so I guess you just never know. I was expecting to rape that pony.

wow... i would have expected better results.... only 1/2 car length? damn... well, i mean, it was a straight line. if that had ONE damn turn, you would have owned it up.

vAnt826 · 09-21-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lvwirelessguy

You have to drive the S2000 violently to get it to move at all. I had one for a minute, but it got tiresome very quickly

And that doesn't sound fun?

E90ice · 09-21-2007, 06:32 PM

Is it possible that the S2000 was modded, but had a stock exhaust?

EVO_S4 · 09-21-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom330

The 328 and the e46 330 are actually VERY close in stats, with actually the 328 maybe having a slight advantage. A 335i, even stock, should have no problem with a stock s2k.

He has the E90 330i not E46

TheAcAvenger · 09-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Weird. Are you sure he was stock? The S2000 is one of my favorite cars ever and I would've chosen it if my legs would fit comfortably. I have really good friends who own one though and going stock for stock, I had no problem pulling on them hard. So either you're not running at max potential or he's not stock. Wouldn't going up a hill made your advantage even higher seeing that he's torqueless and you're the opposite?

E90ice · 09-21-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Weird. Are you sure he was stock? The S2000 is one of my favorite cars ever and I would've chosen it if my legs would fit comfortably. I have really good friends who own one though and going stock for stock, I had no problem pulling on them hard. So either you're not running at max potential or he's not stock. Wouldn't going up a hill made your advantage even higher seeing that he's torqueless and you're the opposite?

Yes, but the forces pull the heavier car back harder than the lighter S2k.
My guess was that he wasn't stock. He had a stock exhaust tough.

When we got to a flat ground he didn't want to race anymore.

imolazhp_ci · 09-21-2007, 08:26 PM

s2000's tend to be alot faster than people think. i have one.... on the highway....like at speed... 335i's will only pull about 2 cars starting from about 60 mph. then at 100 be about 3 cars. part of it is because the S2000 has a far better gearing platform for highspeed racing... 8250 or 9000 rpm's depending on model. VERY low final drive. etc... like i said... on the hwy 335i's will pull roughly 2-4 cars on me. off the line.... bye bye... i can't even come close or catch up. and the S2000 has a higher top speed, delimit your 335i and that immediately changes. but i've gone 163 in my stock S2000.

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imolazhp_ci Major 29 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange county iTrader: (0)	s2000's tend to be alot faster than people think. i have one.... on the highway....like at speed... 335i's will only pull about 2 cars starting from about 60 mph. then at 100 be about 3 cars. part of it is because the S2000 has a far better gearing platform for highspeed racing... 8250 or 9000 rpm's depending on model. VERY low final drive. etc... like i said... on the hwy 335i's will pull roughly 2-4 cars on me. off the line.... bye bye... i can't even come close or catch up. and the S2000 has a higher top speed, delimit your 335i and that immediately changes. but i've gone 163 in my stock S2000.
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