[Vegas_Sirk]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/19/k...ife-lap-recor/



You can make a car that accelerates. You can make a car that brakes. You can make one that handles. One that corners. One with a high top speed. But to make one that does it all is a different story entirely. That's why automakers go to the N?rburgring. Its northern loop is twenty-two kilometers of twists, turns, dips, straights, chicanes...even a carousel. And it's got a new champion.

The Pagani Zonda F recently lapped the track that claimed Lauda's ears in a scant 7:27:82, edging out the previous ruler, the Porsche Carrera GT (which it also rivals for carbon-fiber content in its construction). The Zonda's hot lap shaved a mere two milliseconds off the Carrera's time, but those are two milliseconds the German supercar evidently couldn't muster on its own home track. How embarrassing, ja?

The specific model that hit the high time was a Clubsport version, which itself will be trumped by the even more extreme Zonda R before designer Horacio Pagani goes back to the drawing board for the Zonda's successor.
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[Sedan_Clan]

Doesn't Porsche still hold the fastest lap record at the 'Ring though? I could have sworn that I recently read that the record is still held by Porsche, and it wasn't the GT that produced the fastest time.

[Vegas_Sirk]

^ think that Porsche is a NON-Production car ... I think the above is related to Production Cars
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[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M3This

^ think that Porsche is a NON-Production car ... I think the above is related to Production Cars

Hmmm. I'll have to find the information again. It was set quite awhile ago too.

edit: It looks like Porsche (956) and BMW (F1 Sauber car) hold the two fastest times: 6:11 and 6:12 respectively!

[S4to335]

Originally Posted by M3This

^ think that Porsche is a NON-Production car ... I think the above is related to Production Cars

Zonda = production car...yeah right, that is stretching the definition a lot.

[sdiver68]

Originally Posted by S4to335

Zonda = production car...yeah right, that is stretching the definition a lot.

You got to be kidding me, claiming a record my 2 milliseconds on a 7+ minute course?

[Ru$$ell]

Originally Posted by S4to335

Zonda = production car...yeah right, that is stretching the definition a lot.

agreed!

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by S4to335

Zonda = production car...yeah right, that is stretching the definition a lot.

It's not stretching it at all. The Zonda fits firmly within the bounds of the production car category. Think of it as a cheaper and lower volume Veyron. (I'm assuming it's lower volume.)

[vAnt826]

2 MILLISECONDS?!

Wow, I think half a degree of temp change would effect more then that.

what was the ruf CTR "yellowbird" ' s time?

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by vAnt826

2 MILLISECONDS?!

Wow, I think half a degree of temp change would effect more then that.

lmfao so true. Well, anything can happen. Who know what'll happen when the even more sporty version comes out.

[MikeCCrutchfield]

Yeah, well...I did it in about 12 1/2 minutes on my first shot in a 325i......ok....so nothing to be proud of lol

[ik999]

Originally Posted by Mr Crutch 325i

Yeah, well...I did it in about 12 1/2 minutes on my first shot in a 325i......ok....so nothing to be proud of lol

What's it like to drive on the Nurburgring?

Do you need any training beforehand? What to you need to get on?

How many laps does it take before you need to replace brakes?

Does traffic make it hectic? Are there ever times when theres very little traffic?

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by ik999

What's it like to drive on the Nurburgring?

Do you need any training beforehand? What to you need to get on?

How many laps does it take before you need to replace brakes?

Does traffic make it hectic? Are there ever times when theres very little traffic?

its a public road. You dont need training to ride on a public road.

[Crimson92]

I did a few weeks ago in a rs4...it was fun

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by ik999

What's it like to drive on the Nurburgring?

Do you need any training beforehand? What to you need to get on?

How many laps does it take before you need to replace brakes?

Does traffic make it hectic? Are there ever times when theres very little traffic?

The un-official name of the track is "The Green Hell" if that gives you any idea of what it's like to drive. Just try it out in any racing game and you'll understand. It's probably the most technical track in the world and so dangerous that they don't let real race cars on it.

[ik999]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

its a public road. You dont need training to ride on a public road.

Yes, but I'm assuming theres a level of skill required when attempting to lap as quick as possible. Also, I just found out that it costs 19 Euros per lap.

Originally Posted by FirstClass

The un-official name of the track is "The Green Hell" if that gives you any idea of what it's like to drive. Just try it out in any racing game and you'll understand. It's probably the most technical track in the world and so dangerous that they don't let real race cars on it.

I understand that. I've seen lots of videos, and I've ran through it many times in Gran Turismo. It's just that I've never tracked a car before, so I'd like to know what's involved.

[MikeCCrutchfield]

Originally Posted by ik999

I understand that. I've seen lots of videos, and I've ran through it many times in Gran Turismo. It's just that I've never tracked a car before, so I'd like to know what's involved.

I walked up to the booth and said I would like to buy 4 laps, handed over my money, went back to my car and waited in line to get through the gate. I only actually ran 3 laps, and my 4th is good until Dec 31st.

And I was wrong...I made it in 12 minutes, not 12 1/2 on my first lap (looked at the -illegal- video tape)

[DM1]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

It's probably the most technical track in the world and so dangerous that they don't let real race cars on it.

Didn't BMW had an F1 car do the Ring?

I really wish to know if 7:27.XXX is the fastest production car, how fast is a race car there? an F1 should be the fastest I think,.. but how fast would that be? 6:XX.XXX???

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by DM1

Didn't BMW had an F1 car do the Ring?

I really wish to know if 7:27.XXX is the fastest production car, how fast is a race car there? an F1 should be the fastest I think,.. but how fast would that be? 6:XX.XXX???

1) Massive necro, but whatever.
2) That was the first F1 car on the ring in something like decades and it was for a promo event, he allegedly wasn't trying and was on shitty tires. That being said the rumor was he ran a 6 something, I forget the exact number there's a thread on the dates and times and how long it's been somewhere around here.

[MontegoblueE92]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

1) Massive necro, but whatever.

+1

As to the Zonda, I don't see how less than 30 cars per year can equal a production car.

Plus Zonda isn't really an all out racing car company. IMO, true race car builders engineer their own engines. They don't buy Mercedes engines and tune them.

[vAnt826]

Way to bring up a 1/2 year thread!