E46 M3 vs Ford Fiesta ST

Kolyan2k · 01-07-2014, 11:15 PM

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ybbiz34 · 01-08-2014, 02:28 AM

I have a hard time believing a Ford Fiesta ST is that good. I really do.

Anybody driven one?

No Friends · 01-09-2014, 09:58 AM

.............and at the end of the day is a POS Ford Fiesta!!

kdbryce · 01-09-2014, 10:00 AM

yeah I'm thinking I might just have to go drive one of these things to see what all this hype is about.

Jadar · 01-09-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I have a hard time believing a Ford Fiesta ST is that good. I really do.

Anybody driven one?

I have never driven a fiesta st, but I have driven a focus st, and the focus really is that good to drive.
I work for ford motor company, and there are quite a few guys that own a fiesta st. After speaking to them about it they absolutely love it. They pretty much said it was probably the best drivers car they ever owned.

Here check this article out from our web site:
http://www.at.ford.com/news/cn/Pages...0Showdown.aspx

Vector Pilot · 01-09-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I have a hard time believing a Ford Fiesta ST is that good. I really do.

Anybody driven one?

Yes!! Read the reviews, couldn't believe it, went to a Ford Dealer, drove it and believed it.

Jadar · 01-09-2014, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by No Friends

.............and at the end of the day is a POS Ford Fiesta!!

For what it is and what it costs I'd call it many things but a POS wouldn't be one of them.

No it's no snooty rich mans car but look at the whole picture.

skalberti · 01-09-2014, 10:03 AM

So they compared an 11 year old M3 with a brand new Fiesta. That's a hell of a handicap they gave Ford.

wdeerfield · 01-09-2014, 10:05 AM

hey ford, make it awd in the US and we'll talk. ill come trade my e90 in tomorrow

Bols · 01-09-2014, 10:05 AM

I swear this guy has some kind of a stereotype trauma. He can not stop talking about it.

mPlasticDesign · 01-09-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

So they compared an 11 year old M3 with a brand new Fiesta. That's a hell of a handicap they gave Ford.

You really missed the point of the test.

ykkrox · 01-09-2014, 10:07 AM

Fiesta as a beater ... I can dig that.
Having both would be nice.

05Mdriver · 01-09-2014, 10:08 AM

Which would I rather drive ?

Humm… tough call.

Not really.

mankid247 · 01-09-2014, 10:08 AM

What's next an e60 m5 vs a new top of the line Prius?

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Brainofjjj · 01-09-2014, 10:08 AM

Having seen these threads on all the m3 forums for 2 days now I'm frankly tired of reading it. Why would this tiny new thread make it to the front page now? At least nominate one with more than one page of responses.

Jadar · 01-09-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 325rider

According to this video the e46 M3 isn't fast, special, and is too much $ to maintain. And since when does having no Nav or Bluetooth or keyless entry a bad thing? I prefer to get in my car and have the ability to SYNC or Engage in anything but driving it.
The car was developed in 1999-2000, I think its the best car to come out of the year 2000

I think the E46 M3 is one if the best cars built period. I prefer it over the E92 M3.

I think this comparison is just a classic example of taking an average car making it fun a viable to nip at the heels of something known and respected like an e46. Will it have the legacy of the e46...no never.

KingOfJericho · 01-09-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

So they compared an 11 year old M3 with a brand new Fiesta. That's a hell of a handicap they gave Ford.

It's a $25k challenge. The whole point of the test was to see if an 11yr old sports car can compete with a modern economy sports car for the same money. That's the entire point of the video! They weren't saying it's better than an M3, they were saying it's better than an 11yr old M3.

xboxgod · 01-09-2014, 10:13 AM

I have no words for that review. I can't believe they even made it.

bradleyland · 01-09-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I have a hard time believing a Ford Fiesta ST is that good. I really do.

Anybody driven one?

I don't know, but whatever shred of confidence Matt Farrah had left went out the window with this review.

I get it. The Fiesta ST is a great car, but that doesn't mean the M3 has to be a mediocre car, which is the impression I got from Matt's comments. When he said (4:10), "Revving it out isn't really... an adventure. You don't feel boost building. It's nothing... it's nothing to write home about, honestly," I almost closed the video.

In matters of subjective review, there is something called professional consensus. Professional consensus is the commonly held view of individuals who engage in said subjective measure as their profession. In other words, they hold some authority on the matter. Professional consensus is that the S54 engine is one of the best naturally aspirated, straight-six engines ever built. It revs to 8,000 RPM, has a wonderfully flat torque curve, and makes a very characteristic sound. That Matt can experience this engine with such a lack of enthusiasm tells me that he lacks taste in engines.

Akopley · 01-09-2014, 10:15 AM

you could get a 335i with tune for less than 25k and smoke 99% of cars on the road...way better than having people question your sexuality while driving a fiesta.

xboxgod · 01-09-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

It's a $25k challenge. The whole point of the test was to see if an 11yr old sports car can compete with a modern economy sports car for the same money. That's the entire point of the video! They weren't saying it's better than an M3, they were saying it's better than an 11yr old M3.

For $16K, you can get a nice e46 M3. For $25K, you can get a nice e46, supercharge it, and do plenty of other mods. Then let me know which car is more fun to drive.

amdmaxx · 01-09-2014, 10:18 AM

yes. it is that good. I'd even pick it over Focus ST

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I have a hard time believing a Ford Fiesta ST is that good. I really do.

Anybody driven one?

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