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Originally Posted by EUPremier

This will shut some folk up.

This is an incorrect measurement by old racelogic. Look here - 7.13s

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Every time I see videos like this... I think boy, how much better this thing would have been had it not been an extra 1k lbs... just a completely unnecessary decision.

Why did they not make this a normal hybrid as opposed to a stupid plug in? the whole regulation talk is nonsense... this cars volume is tiny compared to the rest of the line where they can make things as efficient as possible...

in the roll race vs the F90...the improvements are truly marginal and again, go back to how much better it would have been had it not packed on so much weight.

This. Mild hybrid but slightly bigger from my m340, tick the boxes for hybrid. Tap out somewhere in the 4600lbs range. Regular driving gas mileage would be way better too which is hilariously counter intuitive. This is just not the car to try a nonsense electric only plug in. Any other 5 series, fine, but the mega performance sporty one? For real Bavarian Engineers???

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by brianeck

This. Mild hybrid but slightly bigger from my m340, tick the boxes for hybrid. Tap out somewhere in the 4600lbs range. Regular driving gas mileage would be way better too which is hilariously counter intuitive. This is just not the car to try a nonsense electric only plug in. Any other 5 series, fine, but the mega performance sporty one? For real Bavarian Engineers???

I have absolutely no idea... my secret thinking is that this is a test bed for some sort of ev hybrid tech for the future more than anything, maybe a future M3 when the batteries get smaller or more efficient... but that's many years away. They've already said the next m3 will likely be a normal hybrid... which is what this should have been... again, no idea what the goal here was as it appears minimal effort was put in.

[Moewron]

Originally Posted by ASAP

it appears minimal effort was put in.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Srichards

This is a good point but I doubt the battery will run out of juice on a daily commute or typical outing. Plus It seems like it’s about a 20 kwh battery so it can probably charge in about 2 hours on a home level 2 charger from 0% if it ever gets that low.

I suppose track days and road trips will be an issue but those are few and far between for most of us.

My wife’s V60 recharge battery has similar range to this one, and definitely runs out pretty quick. Average warm weather range is 35ish, cold is about 30. Long trips (over 30-40 miles), forget it. The point I keep bringing up is, the obvious need for a hybrid system to sell these in the EU aside, it’s more of a hindrance than an advantage, never mind having to carry around a charging cable everywhere you go to juice this thing in addition to filling the tank. This obviously won’t be much of a problem for plenty of folks (for example, my commute is under 30 miles and I can charge for free at work), but there it is…

[Pentium]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

My brother owns a Plaid. Biggest piece of garbage I have driven since the mid 1990s.

Couldn't agree more. It is horrible

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by Pentium

Couldn't agree more. It is horrible

The most striking thing for me about that car was when I was closing the doors, they rattled and the car shook. I was afraid I was breaking the car.

I have been driving only BMW, Merc and Audi for the past 25 years and I guess I just take build quality for granted now. When you close the doors on German cars they don't shake or rattle, they are like a bank vault.

[Srichards]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

My wife’s V60 recharge battery has similar range to this one, and definitely runs out pretty quick. Average warm weather range is 35ish, cold is about 30. Long trips (over 30-40 miles), forget it. The point I keep bringing up is, the obvious need for a hybrid system to sell these in the EU aside, it’s more of a hindrance than an advantage, never mind having to carry around a charging cable everywhere you go to juice this thing in addition to filling the tank. This obviously won’t be much of a problem for plenty of folks (for example, my commute is under 30 miles and I can charge for free at work), but there it is…

I’m under the impression that most people who will opt for the G90 won’t be driving around in all electric mode to save on gas. My wife and I looked at an x5 50e and were disappointed in the 30 mile range in all electric mode so we went with an iX. It seemed pointless to get a hybrid for 30 miles in electric mode in a family vehicle. I don’t see the G90 as a typical family hybrid where people drive around in electric mode to avoid gas stations. For me, if I’m blessed enough to get my hands on a G90, I’ll probably always be in sport mode like I am in my G30. But my commute is like yours so perhaps I’m being narrow-minded.