[hdahman]

How’s suspension differ between the 2?

[hdahman]

Originally Posted by Herofmine

Saw G90 first time today, very sad, nothing positive here.

Exterior: front doesn’t look that bad, but rear looks bloated unproportial ugly.

Interior: Everything cheap, leather feels from G20, Plastics Cheap like on G20, speaker covers felt like from Toyota Tundra.

No soft close doors, no rear comfort access, sounds bad.

I guess everyone who liked this car is just because of Hybrid assist from take off (no lag) that’s all.

I remember when I first saw F90 back in 2018 when I had LCI F10 M5, I loved F90 and really wanted one, I didn’t feel this with G90….

Omg everyday I am reading, there’s another deleted option in g90/99! I started the list with no Comp, no full leather, now it’s like 2 pages long

[Booms]

The critiques from the experts about the G90/99 short comings on this forum have persuaded me to cancel my order. The lack of soft-close doors is unacceptable for my standards. I'm considering purchasing a white Macan instead, to blend in with the majority.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by Booms

The critiques from the experts about the G90/99 short comings on this forum have persuaded me to cancel my order. The lack of soft-close doors is unacceptable for my standards. I'm considering purchasing a white Macan instead, to blend in with the majority.

👎

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by hdahman

How’s suspension differ between the 2?

The G90 is a lot more supple. Its a massive difference, I am surprised. Its even more comfortable than my G30 540i

[CarlosM4]

I gotta say thus far, the G90's powertrain is awesome.
Its not faster than the F90 M5 CP LCI, but its so quick to pick up due to the electric torque. The numbers once both are in full chap climb the same way.

Unlike the AMG E Performance where there are holes in acceleration, some weird behaviour, the G90's powertrain is a masterpiece, so quiet, smooth, they integrated both engines beautifully, the tranny too. Transmission is quick, intuitive, smooth, the Mercedes E Performance cars have had updates and improved massively since I last drove, but there is more delay, tranny is also harsher than the G90

I am just disappointed with the weight and handling. It does not feel like an M5 (I get its cold, tyres arent ideal, but still I have driven the S63 E Performance on this trip too, and it has more grip and handling (WTF)). It feels to me like an in between the F90 and M760Li. The car also feels the weight in sharper potholes and cobbled streets. I feel it will eat bushings, tyres and brakes at a crazy pace. Nonetheless in Comfort mode its crazy supple and comfortable (more than the S63 as well (WTF once again)). BMW made probably the most comfortable M5 thus far. Dont get me wrong by the way, it does handle well, it does grip too, much more than it should given its weight. Its just that as a F90 M5 CP LCI owner, I was expecting more. It has 85% of the grip and handling of the M5 CP, which makes me sad, because if this powertrain was in an M5, 300-400kg lighter, this car would have been simply a masterpiece

Nonetheless thus far I am impressed. Just can not compare it to the F90 M5, if you do and treat it and drive it the same way, you will be in for instant disappointment

If you see it as a less hard core M5, more comfortable, refined and "modern" car you will like it.

Just can not fathom why they cheaped out on leather, comfort access, and other stuff, given they oriented the car for comfort.

[Rafichicago]

Someone mentioned here that it’s “performance” leather. Just like furniture these days. I’ve seen some performance area rugs. Waiting to buy performance toilet paper…
Those fu****g marketers and those responsible for product placement are phenomenal 🤣🤣🤣 Can’t believe people fall for their BS.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

Someone mentioned here that it’s “performance” leather. Just like furniture these days. I’ve seen some performance area rugs. Waiting to buy performance toilet paper…
Those fu****g marketers and those responsible for product placement are phenomenal 🤣🤣🤣 Can’t believe people fall for their BS.

Honestly given how they set up and tuned the car for comfort. Makes no sense that the car has removed comfort features and lost quality inside

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

Honestly given how they set up and tuned the car for comfort. Makes no sense that the car has removed comfort features and lost quality inside

I do 100% agree with this. Removed fender vents front seat has less adjustability interior materials are subpar to previous gen no soft close ( I really don’t care about that one they could save it for that 7 series monstrosity) bowers is not diamond series plastics like in X3 the list goes on. BMW will have a laugh if they come up with CS iteration of this car. I already see it. We have saved 63.8755737kg with this new car 🤣

[masd79]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

I gotta say thus far, the G90's powertrain is awesome.
Its not faster than the F90 M5 CP LCI, but its so quick to pick up due to the electric torque. The numbers once both are in full chap climb the same way.

Unlike the AMG E Performance where there are holes in acceleration, some weird behaviour, the G90's powertrain is a masterpiece, so quiet, smooth, they integrated both engines beautifully, the tranny too. Transmission is quick, intuitive, smooth, the Mercedes E Performance cars have had updates and improved massively since I last drove, but there is more delay, tranny is also harsher than the G90

I am just disappointed with the weight and handling. It does not feel like an M5 (I get its cold, tyres arent ideal, but still I have driven the S63 E Performance on this trip too, and it has more grip and handling (WTF)). It feels to me like an in between the F90 and M760Li. The car also feels the weight in sharper potholes and cobbled streets. I feel it will eat bushings, tyres and brakes at a crazy pace. Nonetheless in Comfort mode its crazy supple and comfortable (more than the S63 as well (WTF once again)). BMW made probably the most comfortable M5 thus far. Dont get me wrong by the way, it does handle well, it does grip too, much more than it should given its weight. Its just that as a F90 M5 CP LCI owner, I was expecting more. It has 85% of the grip and handling of the M5 CP, which makes me sad, because if this powertrain was in an M5, 300-400kg lighter, this car would have been simply a masterpiece

Nonetheless thus far I am impressed. Just can not compare it [...]

It will absolutely walk the f90 comp on the highway. If you’re comparing a perfect beep beep beep go then maybe not but if it pulls up next to you in a real life scenario signals a go and guns it, an f90 will be downshifting while the g90 will be taking the next off ramp waving bye bye.. 👋

[masd79]

Originally Posted by CarlosM4

Honestly given how they set up and tuned the car for comfort. Makes no sense that the car has removed comfort features and lost quality inside

Drive the car if you haven’t.. none of concerns beside leather type , bw, massaging seats and soft close will hold up.

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by masd79

Drive the car if you haven’t.. none of concerns beside leather type , bw, massaging seats and soft close will hold up.

Mate I think you missed the point. I am currently driving it in Germany. And yes I do feel the difference in its quality to the F90. Sorry. And the equipment I got used

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by masd79

It will absolutely walk the f90 comp on the highway. If you’re comparing a perfect beep beep beep go then maybe not but if it pulls up next to you in a real life scenario signals a go and guns it, an f90 will be downshifting while the g90 will be taking the next off ramp waving bye bye.. 👋

Like I said in my post, once the instant torque advantage is gone, both are equally as fast (butt dyno). Forgot my dragy in Brazil so I cant really compare.

[nordmanmg]

Originally Posted by hdahman

Omg everyday I am reading, there’s another deleted option in g90/99! I started the list with no Comp, no full leather, now it’s like 2 pages long

BMW will do quick LCI in 6-8 months.
They will have full leather, soft close doors, and Label Red trim.
All G90 M5’s are Comp’s. No more base model.
If you haven’t noticed - they “deleted” all base models from 5-Series and up M-Lineup.
All X5/6M’s are comps after LCI and so as M8