[KevinGS]

I kinda like the way it looks. I like the aggressive, over-styled rear and the bolstered front end. And I like it with the larger, darker wheels. I like that it's not simply an evolution of the F90. It will look better in person.

And since I don't think an M5 is supposed to be lithe and agile, I don't mind the hefty weight or the complex powertrain. M5s are not built to be athletic, instead they're more fast cruise missiles. And it will be faster than BMW is claiming.

So for an executive transport, I think this fits the bill. With this powertrain, not many are going to own this car outside of a lease, so until the M5 goes full EV, this is a decent 3-year lease stopgap until the M5 goes full EV....which will likely be at the end of this generation. Expect a 900-hp EV M5 soon, and of course then everyone will bemoan the loss of the V8.

Time waits for no one, and BMW is not going backward. Don't worry, they'll soon be piping that V8 soundtrack into its EV models soon enough.

[M5 London]

Originally Posted by Defragster

510cm long, 500kg heavier, and has the same trunk space and leg space as M3/M4, but way less usefull due to ridiculous shape of trunk.

50k € more then m3/m4, but same 0-100 (or even worse, same on paper ). Will drive way worse in turns, nightmare to park.

No carbon fibre on the steering wheel. M3/m4 - carbon.
Plastic paddle shifters, while m3/m4 gets full carbon.

No carbon fibre diffuser in the package.

No real shifter, only paddles.

Looks good, but that front camera offset - whoever approved that should just be fired immediately, lol.

Love the new interior combos, especially orange/black with green exterior.

Overall, m3 /m4 over this any given day. I see zero reason to get this and i would wait for panamera gts in july with v8 and no hybrid bs if i was looking to spend that much for a saloon.

M3 has 6 cylinders

The End

[FSHNGRY]

Random note: I don’t like the “m5” badging in the rear door kink


Amongst a list of other things. But I had to mentioned that

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by AHall

So you know who designed the G90? I am trying to understand what you two are saying? The person or team responsible are not German, not men or what?

I suppose we’re suggesting that some of the designers BMW are now employing do not align with a large part of their base demographic.

My subsequent comment regarding DEI initiatives is self explanatory and that’s what I believe to be true. If you support it and think it’s a good business practice then I respect your belief as well.

[XM Label]

Originally Posted by AHall

I think the car is going to be a win. Just because it MAY not have a published to 0-60 mhp less than the F90 is not significant to me. Can you really tell the difference between 3.3 and 3.5?

It may be able to go around the racetrack faster with the rear wheel steering, extra horsepower and other engineering enhancements.

Did anyone see that cool video with the Connor MacGregor look-a-like?

They are sandbagging 0-60 times as usual. When tested numbers come out my guess is everyone will be surprised. Hell my XM label does 0-60 in 3.2-3.3s and it weighs way more! I like this G90.

[ledphut]

Originally Posted by XM Label

They are sandbagging 0-60 times as usual. When tested numbers come out my guess is everyone will be surprised. Hell my XM label does 0-60 in 3.2-3.3s and it ways more! I like this G90.

Welp, I believe the Remove Before Race guy & Joe Achilles (who regularly get to drive every performance car known to man) when they say the straight line acceleration “wasn’t that impressive”.

And with the current crop of EVs 0-60 times really aren’t that impressive anymore. To real enthusiasts it’s the 0-120 that matters. I suspect even the XM falls flat in that arena.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by XM Label

They are sandbagging 0-60 times as usual. When tested numbers come out my guess is everyone will be surprised. Hell my XM label does 0-60 in 3.2-3.3s and it ways more! I like this G90.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

0-60 2.5 s

1/4 M 10.8 s

[hb]

Originally Posted by ledphut

Welp, I believe the Remove Before Race guy & Joe Achilles (who regularly get to drive every performance car known to man) when they say the straight line acceleration “wasn’t that impressive”.

And with the current crop of EVs 0-60 times really aren’t that impressive anymore. To real enthusiasts it’s the 0-120 that matters. I suspect even the XM falls flat in that arena.

Actually the straight line performance was pretty good. Lots of grip, lots of torque. Considering how heavy it is, it's pretty good. To me, it was the cornering and braking that was problematic: that's when you really feel the weight.

I still think this car should not be reviewed on a track. It's really not a track car. They made it a bit softer also so people like it as a daily driver and it's more of a luxury (M7-like) sedan than the old school M5s.

I personally look forward to drive on the street this fall and see what it means to live with the car.

Was PHEV the best choice? Unlikely, but who knows why and how these decisions are made. My guess? 8-9 years ago when planning started for this car, PHEVs were "the thing" and M was not ready for a full EV M5 in 2024. And I'm glad they didn't go EV now, the range would have not been great, charging also and even heavier.

[G30M]

from Motor1 dot com

The 2025 BMW M5 is heavier than a Chevy Tahoe. Here's a list of other cars that weigh less than the new M5:
2024 Ford F-150 Supercrew 4WD (4,941 lbs)
2024 Lucid Air Sapphire (5,336 lbs)
2023 Mercedes Maybach S-Class (5,346 lbs)
2024 Range Rover Sport (5,090 lbs)
2024 BMW i5 M60 EV (5,247 lbs)

[asif163]

Originally Posted by gblansten

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a61159230/2025-bmw-m5-prototype-track-drive/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_cdb&utm_medium=email&date =062724&utm_campaign=nl35831836&GID=bbb56b269d58a6 52cba95f1f0923751c4f506f8ff6908371899603844bf18cd9 &utm_term=TEST-%20NEW%20TEST%20-%20Sending%20List%20-%20AM%20180D%20Clicks%2C%20NON%20AM%2090D%20Opens% 2C%20Both%20Subbed%20Last%2030D

0-60 2.5 s

1/4 M 10.8 s

These are C/D estimates…not actuals. If they are right though, wow. 🤯

[rotatingchicken]

Originally Posted by Mavus

I really don’t see a single aspect that is exciting. This is a land yacht. The rear is horrid!

Agreed completely. Mercedes taillights too