[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

He drives an ///M3? I must have missed that...

I had to look twice also..

[Sam Tango]

wow I just discovered this thread...great job guys keep at it! )

[Sam Tango]

Let me contribute to this amazing thread with more fuel for discussion: MICROPLASTICS

It turns that the biggest source of microplastics in the environment is car tires. This stuff goes into our blood stream and ends up in all kinds of places like brain, liver, pancreas, and causes hormonal and other issues.

Now, cars getting heavier (thanks to electrification), we are shedding a lot more microplastics to the environment. Think about how fast your Tesla goes through tires; this stuff ends up in our organs and bloodstream.

So, one of the biggest arguments against electrification, which results in heavier cars and rapid tire consumption, is MICROPLASTICS.

Do you want more microplastics in your brain? Didn't think so! So, lets all go back to lighter, ICE cars with manual transmissions

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Tank heater would increase pressure. Had a heater for my nitrous bottle long ago.

What could possibly go wrong?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sam Tango

Let me contribute to this amazing thread with more fuel for discussion: MICROPLASTICS

It turns that the biggest source of microplastics in the environment is car tires. This stuff goes into our blood stream and ends up in all kinds of places like brain, liver, pancreas, and causes hormonal and other issues.

Now, cars getting heavier (thanks to electrification), we are shedding a lot more microplastics to the environment. Think about how fast your Tesla goes through tires; this stuff ends up in our organs and bloodstream.

So, one of the biggest arguments against electrification, which results in heavier cars and rapid tire consumption, is MICROPLASTICS.

Do you want more microplastics in your brain? Didn't think so! So, lets all go back to lighter, ICE cars with manual transmissions :thump:

Hi and welcome .
Never really thought that much about microplastics and the health implications from tires that shed faster from the heavier EV's, glad you brought it up in the thread where more can be discussed about it.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ge...umsKqIeBA,st:0

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Hydrogen Achillies Heel is vaporization during on-board storage. It's not a solvable problem. It is just physics. Hydrogen is great for rockets, personal automobiles not so much.

This may be right up your alley

https://interestingengineering.com/e...rough-material

[dfox]

Originally Posted by Sam Tango

Let me contribute to this amazing thread with more fuel for discussion: MICROPLASTICS

It turns that the biggest source of microplastics in the environment is car tires. This stuff goes into our blood stream and ends up in all kinds of places like brain, liver, pancreas, and causes hormonal and other issues.

Now, cars getting heavier (thanks to electrification), we are shedding a lot more microplastics to the environment. Think about how fast your Tesla goes through tires; this stuff ends up in our organs and bloodstream.

So, one of the biggest arguments against electrification, which results in heavier cars and rapid tire consumption, is MICROPLASTICS.

Do you want more microplastics in your brain? Didn't think so! So, lets all go back to lighter, ICE cars with manual transmissions

Red Herring.

This is miss-leading as weight is not the only factor in tire wear. It's completely overlooking the instant torque and rapid acceleration that EV's have compared to equivalent ICE vehicles.

In my anecdotal experience, the higher tire wear is absolutely due to the instant and high torque, not weight. I have three cars, an ICE SUV, ICE convertible, and an EV CUV. The ICE SUV weighs the most out of all three yet has the best tire wear. My convertible is my fun car and I drive the pants off it, tire wear is fast. Our EV has 446 lbft of torque and I use it all often, tire wear is fast.

Also doesn't take into consideration that the stock EV tires are absolute garbage and can't handle the torque that these cars put out. I very often get our EV to slide around, even in dry weather. That's going to increase tire wear drastically.

IMO, this thread is the wrong demographic to complain about tire wear. I think the vast majority of us would chose quicker tire wear and more power...

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by Sam Tango

So, one of the biggest arguments against electrification, which results in heavier cars and rapid tire consumption, is MICROPLASTICS.

Excuses, excuses...
Don't forget to bring up:

• Putting organized labor slobs out of their jobs because EVs are simpler and quicker to build.
• Same lame argument for oil drillers and coal miners.
• EVs spontaneously combust all the time (false, but give that one a try).
• The culture wars argument - one must hate EVs since they are mostly driven by "coastal elites"...
• ...

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gonzo

This may be right up your alley

https://interestingengineering.com/e...rough-material

Thanks for the post. Not a lot of specifics yet on the chemistry implementation time frame, and what about a 15% gain in density? But like hydrogen, sodium is plentiful and I'd guess free drinking water to boot?

[M5Rick]

Wishing everyone a great Christmas and a happy New Year, let's keep the ins and outs of this important subject coming.

[gonzo]

Ugh

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/25/...tion-site-in-b

[M5Rick]

^ BYDing their time before they realized ?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ugh

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/25/...tion-site-in-b

I boycott China as best I can. It gets more difficult every year. Pissed me to no end the Getrag manual in my Bronco was sourced from China. I did my best to research if the Getrag-China factory used forced-labor, all indications show it doesn't.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I boycott China as best I can. It gets more difficult every year. Pissed me to no end the Getrag manual in my Bronco was sourced from China. I did my best to research if the Getrag-China factory used forced-labor, all indications show it doesn't.

Getrag factory in China only uses manual labor.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I boycott China as best I can. It gets more difficult every year. Pissed me to no end the Getrag manual in my Bronco was sourced from China. I did my best to research if the Getrag-China factory used forced-labor, all indications show it doesn't.

I do my homework too. Looking at you Lotus. Not for working conditions, obviously, but cCp tentacles.

What I gathered from the article is Brazil is the larger culprit. China is "claiming" to be offering solutions to stop the abuse.
Salt grain>>>here.

[LH44]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I boycott China as best I can. It gets more difficult every year. Pissed me to no end the Getrag manual in my Bronco was sourced from China. I did my best to research if the Getrag-China factory used forced-labor, all indications show it doesn't.

Good on you! More people should follow in your footsteps.

I left a negative Yelp review for my local PF Chang's, even though I don't eat there. Screw them.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Getrag factory in China only uses manual labor.

I see what you did there... 😂

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by FC4

Good on you! More people should follow in your footsteps.

I left a negative Yelp review for my local PF Chang's, even though I don't eat there. Screw them.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Mark me down as having zero concerns over tire wear microplastics.

[gblansten]

Mark me down as having zero concerns over tire wear microplastics.

I would bet the psychological and physical toll of being the type of person who worries about microplastics is much worse on one's mortality than microplastics.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Mark me down as having zero concerns over tire wear microplastics.

I would bet the psychological and physical toll of being the type of person who worries about microplastics is much worse on one's mortality than microplastics.

It's the things you can't see like microplastics which are the slow silent killer, you don't worry about it of course but know it's always there.