G90 vs F90 vs F10

M5 London · 02-01-2025, 07:19 AM

Fun day out and still in love with my F90, which I've daily driven for nearly 4 years now.

josec70 · 02-01-2025, 11:52 AM

Thanks for sharing.

It is obvious that the F90 was a huge improvement in performance over the F10.

It is also obvious that the delta in performance between the F90 and the G90 is non-existant, and therein lies the quandry.

After 6 M5’s dating back to my first M5 which was an E39, I will not be migrating to the G90, at least not this iteration. I will happily stay in my current 22’ M5C as there is nothing compelling me to make the move.

For those that will undoubtedly question my comments … yes, I can afford a G90 and yes, I have extensively driven it as my brother owns one.

And yes, this is just my opinion and not an indictment on this car. I’m sure many value the PHEV and new styling etc and I respect that.

A G90 with performance that is measurably better than it’s predecessor could tilt my mind in another direction. Unfortunately, this is not that car.

A_ · 02-02-2025, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by josec70

Thanks for sharing.

It is obvious that the F90 was a huge improvement in performance over the F10.

It is also obvious that the delta in performance between the F90 and the G90 is non-existant, and therein lies the quandry.

After 6 M5’s dating back to my first M5 which was an E39, I will not be migrating to the G90, at least not this iteration. I will happily stay in my current 22’ M5C as there is nothing compelling me to make the move.

For those that will undoubtedly question my comments … yes, I can afford a G90 and yes, I have extensively driven it as my brother owns one.

And yes, this is just my opinion and not an indictment on this car. I’m sure many value the PHEV and new styling etc and I respect that.

A G90 with performance that is measurably better than it’s predecessor could tilt my mind in another direction. Unfortunately, this is not that car.

In my opinion, you should go for the M5 CS F90. It's faster than the comp version and is as fast as the m5 comp with piggyback. Mat did a 1/4 in 10.8s in the M5 CS

Greer · 02-06-2025, 01:51 PM

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In my opinion, you should go for the M5 CS.

No, the M5 CS seats make it not feasible for a car I would drive daily and take clients out in.

warpeacelove · 02-07-2025, 11:05 PM

G90 owners are quiet, but let’s be clear: the F90 is undeniably the last true M5. The G90 should have been properly re-badged as an M7.

beaups · 02-08-2025, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove

G90 owners are quiet, but let’s be clear: the F90 is undeniably the last true M5. The G90 should have been properly re-badged as an M7.

It is a 5 series so calling it an M7 would make no sense. M570e?

warpeacelove · 02-09-2025, 10:10 AM

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It is a 5 series so calling it an M7 would make no sense. M570e?

It clearly went over your head because that chassis shouldn't have been designated as such. It is as big as a Whale, hence the M7 suggestion.

iifymbro · 02-09-2025, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove

It clearly went over your head because that chassis shouldn't have been designated as such. It is as big as a Whale, hence the M7 suggestion.

7 series is bigger so it's all still in line, you're just stuck in the past and whining about it thinking anyone cares

warpeacelove · 02-09-2025, 02:29 PM

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7 series is bigger so it's all still in line, you're just stuck in the past and whining about it thinking anyone cares

That’s laughable —> here is the info for your mammoth G90.

The BMW G90 M5 is slightly longer than the 2022 BMW 7 Series, but the 7 Series is wider.

BMW G90 M5 dimensions Length: 200.63 in (509.6 cm), Width: 77.56 in (197.0 cm), Width with mirrors: 84.88 in (215.6 cm), and Height: 59.45 in (151.0 cm).
2022 BMW 7 Series dimensions Length: 207.4 in, Width: 74.9 in, and Height: 58.2 in

Weight: The 2025 BMW M5 G90 (G90 M5) weighs more than some BMW 7 Series models. The G90 M5 weighs around 5,400 pounds, again, which is why I said they need to rebadge it and call it an M7.

beaups · 02-09-2025, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove

It clearly went over your head because that chassis shouldn't have been designated as such. It is as big as a Whale, hence the M7 suggestion.

But the 7 series is even bigger, not to mention an entirely different car. It didn’t go over my head, your assertion just makes no sense.

warpeacelove · 02-09-2025, 05:19 PM

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But the 7 series is even bigger, not to mention an entirely different car. It didn’t go over my head, your assertion just makes no sense.

Comprehension is key; read my response above to another member. I shared facts.

The0bald · 02-09-2025, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove

Comprehension is key; read my response above to another member. I shared facts.

compare apples to apples EG: 2025 750e. That’s the current model, in a hybrid, not an old model in petrol

GJBFI · 02-09-2025, 06:37 PM

What a useless argument. We don't care about imaginary model names. It's the M5 and that's it.

beaups · 02-10-2025, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove

Comprehension is key; read my response above to another member. I shared facts.

I fully comprehend your position, it’s just wrong. Today’s 7 series is bigger than the 5 series and a totally different car.

Looking at past generations is pointless for naming today’s cars. Today’s M3 is larger than the M5 used to be. Should we call the M3 the M5?

ctelimad · 02-10-2025, 08:54 PM

Hehe let people call it whatesver they want
M7 m560e m760e m10....lol
I like my g90 M5 and love the way it drives and this what matters
I never knew badges are so important

Salespunk · 03-05-2025, 11:49 AM

Arguing over performance at this level has become academic. The last few generations of M5 have become so fast that the full potential is basically unusable outside of a quick freeway onramp blast. On my local canyon roads it was not uncommon to see 125-140 mph on the short straights in my F90. Most corners were being exited at 60-80 mph in even relatively tight sections. Not sure why anyone needs to go faster than that on public roads. Taking a tenth or two off 60-90, etc makes zero difference in the real world at these speeds.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a G90 including weight, de-contented interior, etc but IMO performance is not one of them.

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josec70 Major General 4,346 REP 5,309 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	Thanks for sharing. It is obvious that the F90 was a huge improvement in performance over the F10. It is also obvious that the delta in performance between the F90 and the G90 is non-existant, and therein lies the quandry. After 6 M5’s dating back to my first M5 which was an E39, I will not be migrating to the G90, at least not this iteration. I will happily stay in my current 22’ M5C as there is nothing compelling me to make the move. For those that will undoubtedly question my comments … yes, I can afford a G90 and yes, I have extensively driven it as my brother owns one. And yes, this is just my opinion and not an indictment on this car. I’m sure many value the PHEV and new styling etc and I respect that. A G90 with performance that is measurably better than it’s predecessor could tilt my mind in another direction. Unfortunately, this is not that car. __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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warpeacelove Lieutenant 202 REP 548 Posts Drives: 550i Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (6)	G90 owners are quiet, but let’s be clear: the F90 is undeniably the last true M5. The G90 should have been properly re-badged as an M7.
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GJBFI Private First Class 255 REP 135 Posts Drives: 2025 BMW M5 Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Quebec iTrader: (0) Garage List 2025 BMW M5 [10.00] [10.00]	What a useless argument. We don't care about imaginary model names. It's the M5 and that's it.
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ctelimad Captain 865 REP 902 Posts Drives: bmw m8 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: nyc iTrader: (0)	Hehe let people call it whatesver they want M7 m560e m760e m10....lol I like my g90 M5 and love the way it drives and this what matters I never knew badges are so important
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Salespunk Lieutenant Colonel 1,866 REP 1,752 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SlowCal iTrader: (0)	Arguing over performance at this level has become academic. The last few generations of M5 have become so fast that the full potential is basically unusable outside of a quick freeway onramp blast. On my local canyon roads it was not uncommon to see 125-140 mph on the short straights in my F90. Most corners were being exited at 60-80 mph in even relatively tight sections. Not sure why anyone needs to go faster than that on public roads. Taking a tenth or two off 60-90, etc makes zero difference in the real world at these speeds. There are plenty of reasons not to buy a G90 including weight, de-contented interior, etc but IMO performance is not one of them.
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