[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by GhostyM

I'd go for an S58 powered 4-door over this monstrosity any damn day of the week lol.

And that's why BMW makes the M3. This car isn't for that audience...

[Matt@Evolve]

Very impressive numbers and an interesting graph shape, looking forward to ours arriving!

[Srichards]

Insane!

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

different strokes for different folks. People who appreciate EV-like smooth acceleration and no turbo lag combined with a V8 sound will love the G90.

Smooth, EV like acceleration is probably the last reason anyone should get one of these. At the end of the day, it has a hybrid system to appease EU regulations. The V8 sound from it is pretty tame too. It does represent good value at this point tho. Although we’ll see how much that changes when the comp/CS/etc. versions come out, and we can finally order full leather, and there’s a new version on the horizon with a more robust hybrid system, yadda yadda.

Also, not to single anyone out, but the first delivery owner made a note that he was thankful that he got CCBs because otherwise he wouldn’t feel confident driving it. I think that’s a whole other discussion that we’ve beaten with a dead horse (why CCBs are unnecessary for the road), but it doesn’t bode well…

I’m still planning an M8, or maybe RS6, or some cheap, used Porsche EV to replace my F90.

Cheers to IND for posting this! Maybe I missed it, but would love to see these graphs compared to the F90 base’s graphs.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

This dyno graph looks like it is tuned like this to protect the trans.

The torque curve is perfectly flat up until about 5,250. Once the RPM’s get up things in the transmission start to heat, so the torque comes down in a nice linear fashion to keep the power flat.

Unrelated fun fact, This is exactly how 3-phase industrial motors are programmed with their torque and power output.

That’s v cool, thanks for that!

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by 2Times

Curious if there’s a difference post-break in service

of course everyone knows once you drive the initial 1200 miles bmw unlocks 150hp!

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

Smooth, EV like acceleration is probably the last reason anyone should get one of these. At the end of the day, it has a hybrid system to appease EU regulations. The V8 sound from it is pretty tame too. It does represent good value at this point tho. Although we’ll see how much that changes when the comp/CS/etc. versions come out, and we can finally order full leather, and there’s a new version on the horizon with a more robust hybrid system, yadda yadda.
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Also, not to single anyone out, but the first delivery owner made a note that he was thankful that he got CCBs because otherwise he wouldn’t feel confident driving it. I think that’s a whole other discussion that we’ve beaten with a dead horse (why CCBs are unnecessary for the road), but it doesn’t bode well…

I’m still planning an M8, or maybe RS6, or some cheap, used Porsche EV to replace my F90.

Cheers to IND for posting this! Maybe I missed it, but would love to see these graphs compared to the F90 base’s graphs.

bmw tests these cars for hundreds of thousands of miles. do you think some doofus has any credibility to say that the stock brakes are so bad to the point of being dangerous? LMAO

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by supershaft

bmw tests these cars for hundreds of thousands of miles. do you think some doofus has any credibility to say that the stock brakes are so bad to the point of being dangerous? LMAO

That wasn’t what I said at all, and made a point to specify exactly that. My point was the first delivery owner said he felt the weight when driving, and it didn’t inspire confidence in him. That probably says more about him, but that aside, he’s also coming from an F90 CS.

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

That wasn’t what I said at all, and made a point to specify exactly that. My point was the first delivery owner said he felt the weight when driving, and it didn’t inspire confidence in him. That probably says more about him, but that aside, he’s also coming from an F90 CS.

he's full of crap most likely. because it's a hybrid and has regenerative braking bmw may have changed the amount of force needed on the pedal to start braking. my bmws and porsches never required more than a light touch but my mclaren needs way way more braking force

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by supershaft

he's full of crap most likely. because it's a hybrid and has regenerative braking bmw may have changed the amount of force needed on the pedal to start braking. my bmws and porsches never required more than a light touch but my mclaren needs way way more braking force

Exactly, who knows what mode he was even in, and the settings he was using. The only point was he felt the weight, but that’s obviously subjective.

I know at least some Porsche EVs let u turn off the regen braking, and I don’t remember if the G90 lets you do that?

[Moewron]

As someone who will probably option the CCB, there's no way the standard brakes are not up to the task of all but sustained aggressive/track driving

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

And that's why BMW makes the M3. This car isn't for that audience...

The M3/M4 is for children. Where I live you only see 17 year old high school kids driving them. My brother got his first M3 at age 17. That was the car I learned how to drive manual on.

[Daaaadadundun]

This version of the BMW M5 is just the first draft. We'll see what they really have up their sleeves when the Competition and CS versions come out.

Same thing happened with the F90.

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by Moewron

As someone who will probably option the CCB, there's no way the standard brakes are not up to the task of all but sustained aggressive/track driving

I ordered CCB’s as well and would probably agree. For a single stop braking performance, steels will perform nearly identical to CCB’s. The CCB’s would have a tiny bit of an advantage since they are 10 or 20mm bigger, not probably not noticeably.

Where CCB’s perform better is with repeated braking they won’t fade like steel brakes. But at those temps you can start wearing CCB’s fast! Most people with GT3’s who track their cars will swap the CCB’s for steels, unless you have an unlimited budget.

If you’re looking for a daily driver that you can take to the track on the weekends, I feel like this isn’t the car for you.

[subterFUSE]

CCB are worth it just for no brake dust. I have them on my R8, and I never need to clean the wheels. You can run your finger over the wheels with a white cotton glove and not even stain it.

[forcefed]

700whp/700wtrq.... 11sec 1/4 mile *oink oink*

[dbru]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

The M3/M4 is for children. Where I live you only see 17 year old high school kids driving them. My brother got his first M3 at age 17. That was the car I learned how to drive manual on.

To be fair an Audi S8 is an old mans car

[Blue87]

Originally Posted by GhostyM

True, but the weight shows off how much performance it loses by being as heavy as a Tahoe

https://youtu.be/hlBNTk9DaHA?feature=shared&t=23

Well, it's as heavy as an X5 M50/60, which sadly, is smaller than a Tahoe.

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by dbru

To be fair an Audi S8 is an old mans car

hehe. That's why I bought an R8 on the same day as the S8.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

hehe. That's why I bought an R8 on the same day as the S8.

Now get an M8 to finalize the Super8 collection.

[M550bernina]

Why did they just not call this a M sport? Like the M550?

M cars are supposed to be track cars. M Sport are only straight line cars.

I can't imagine a 5,300 pound vehicle on a road course.

[carseatsm5]

If it’s over 800hp crank then shouldn’t it be faster?