[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by 335fourdoor

what's up with a gay speedometer? 140mph?

Just looked at ford.com, the 2011 goes up to 160

[graider]

that is pretty aggresive looking. i like it...but only in black.

lighter color and those add on black lip, side panel don't match well.

[Z4Murder]

i like it

[lopealle]

looks good

[ragingclue]

Trying so hard to find out which dealers will be on that list....

It's like super duper G14 classified.

[Nutballa]

Damn good lookin' mustang.

[c0nstant]

Originally Posted by gonzo

RTR Carbon. A wee bit more money.

oh my that's nice

[ibeclueless]

new mustangs looks good

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by gonzo

You are correct. The car would have to be on the weekend warriors list. Basic options and 5K or so on performance and you have one mean little blue oval. Put 10-15K in it and look out.

I'm currently having a hard time wrestling with the RTR GT and the GT500.... Until last night, I was unaware (maybe I live in a cave or something) that the GT500 dropped 102 pounds from its engine alone, and may not be the porker I'm used to. However, even with the weight loss (it has lost weight in other areas as well), even the SVT package keeps the rear end a bit softer because it aids hooking and acceleration.... My bet is the RTR will be a more solid car when you're using the steering wheel, but good God, the Shelby puts out some numbers and has amazing potential.

The knock on the 5.0 originally was that it wasn't going to be boost friendly (11.0:1), and from what I gather, there are a couple big name tuners who are either having a lot of trouble fitting an SC on there, or have given up completely. There have been reports of 28HP gains from tune alone though.... I guess it's just all about how much power you really "need" to enjoy the car...

Still, an optioned RTR is $7k less than an optioned GT500.

[gonzo]

^ I would not give 8K for that stuff. It looks like, maybe, 3-4 worth at best.

The exterior pieces need to be molded on and painted or something. They look like they might blow off like that. One article I read said an ECU change is included with the RTR. ???

My money would go to good wheels/tires, ECU, exhaust and tweaky deak the suspension.

I could not get that chin spoiler out of the drive. Well, I could leave but the spoiler would stay behind.

[ragingclue]

The package comes with the FRP tune, intake, exhaust, wheels and tires, and suspension.

Plus, you've got the factory standing behind the car. I like it, but I'm waiting to hear if there's an alternative to the cow-catcher chin spoiler. I could be ok with it I guess, but if I had a choice, I'd rather go without it along with the stripes. I've done some reading up on the tires and general concensus is they are really good tires which won't wear out quickly, and I do like the wheels they include in this package.

EDIT: Also, remember all this is installed and remains under warranty for $7895. It would benefit me to wait a bit to select a more lucrative tuning option anyway, and it would probably also behoove me to get used to the car before slapping too much power under the hood.

[gonzo]

Did not know that.

Not a fan of those wheels at all. In fact I can't stand them. The rest, as said, would be a good thing to get from the dealer.

"I givz u 2,500 and u keep dem wheelz, floor matz and flappy pieces"

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Did not know that.

Not a fan of those wheels at all. In fact I can't stand them. The rest, as said, would be a good thing to get from the dealer.

"I givz u 2,500 and u keep dem wheelz, floor matz and flappy pieces"

I like them. I actually think I like the factory Brembo option package wheels better, but I haven't seen them on a car with a drop yet, so I really can't compare with how they'd look on the car. What is it you don't like about the wheels? The color? The design? I think they'd look good on a Sterling Gray Metallic GT. But that's just me. Of course, the best would be if they had come out with some Cragar S/S wheels, but that's been played out in the retro-muscle scene unfortunately. I remember when I first fitted those to my '68 GTO.... You know those sounds Tim Taylor makes in Home Improvement? The guttural male approval grunt? I actually involuntarily made a similar sound when I stepped back and looked at the car with those wheels on it.

Honestly, there's probably a few hundred in RTR badging alone, which I could do without as well, but I figure it's their package, and they deserve to have their name out there. I wonder how much money they recoup from retaining the Brembo package wheels....

[Silver-Bolt]

Shelby's new GT350 is getting 500/500 out of the 5.0 with an SC. Very boost friendly. Rumor is Ford had to put the stops on the GT350 tuning as it was out producing the GT500's 5.4L by a wide margin. The new 5.0 is going to be a monster. The 6.2L in the Raptor will be a crazy beast.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by Silver-Bolt

Shelby's new GT350 is getting 500/500 out of the 5.0 with an SC. Very boost friendly. Rumor is Ford had to put the stops on the GT350 tuning as it was out producing the GT500's 5.4L by a wide margin. The new 5.0 is going to be a monster. The 6.2L in the Raptor will be a crazy beast.

I was under the impression that the 350 was on the fritz due to inability to hit cost targets.

[Olagüe]

where is the xenon??? please year 2011..!!

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by Olagüe

where is the xenon??? please year 2011..!!

Xenon is available on the pre-package car (see the pics of the white one). The RTR package does not have any bearing on that.

And they are taking orders for the 2011 5.0 already. I am, however, a bit concerned that I may have to get a new bottom end if any sort of decent blower is to be fitted.... Bummer.

[Silver-Bolt]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Xenon is available on the pre-package car (see the pics of the white one). The RTR package does not have any bearing on that.

And they are taking orders for the 2011 5.0 already. I am, however, a bit concerned that I may have to get a new bottom end if any sort of decent blower is to be fitted.... Bummer.

You will have to do pistons and rods to add boost. Ford's infinite wisdom went with the powder forged rods once again. Manley likely already has rods ready for the 5.0.

[herbz]

Originally Posted by Silver-Bolt

You will have to do pistons and rods to add boost. Ford's infinite wisdom went with the powder forged rods once again. Manley likely already has rods ready for the 5.0.

Here is a great write up on the 5.0 for anyone interested:

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...ine/index.html

As far as boosting the car, IMO, I would rather take a '10 with the cast iron block, which are going to be on sale much cheaper now that the '11's are out. I honestly think that the '10 GT's can respond much better/more reliably to high boost than the new 5.0. Time will tell.

As far as bolt ons for the 5.0, some of the mustang guys are already reporting over 400WHP with just a tune. Add exhaust and intake and maybe you'll see 420WHP from those minor mods.

Honestly I would take a GT for $32k, upgrade the suspension, do a few minor cosmetic upgrades, and get intake/exhaust/tune and have a great all around ride for under $40k

Or, get a '10 GT for probably $20k or less in a year, mod the living shit out of it, and have a 700WHP BEAST..

It's all about what you want..

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by herbz

Here is a great write up on the 5.0 for anyone interested:

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...ine/index.html

As far as boosting the car, IMO, I would rather take a '10 with the cast iron block, which are going to be on sale much cheaper now that the '11's are out. I honestly think that the '10 GT's can respond much better/more reliably to high boost than the new 5.0. Time will tell.

As far as bolt ons for the 5.0, some of the mustang guys are already reporting over 400WHP with just a tune. Add exhaust and intake and maybe you'll see 420WHP from those minor mods.

Honestly I would take a GT for $32k, upgrade the suspension, do a few minor cosmetic upgrades, and get intake/exhaust/tune and have a great all around ride for under $40k

Or, get a '10 GT for probably $20k or less in a year, mod the living shit out of it, and have a 700WHP BEAST..

It's all about what you want..

DING DING DING!

I have owned one Ford, P/U, out of all my keys and have actually entertained this idea. It's not like your spending 80 or have something that is costly to repair. Waiting to see if any warrantied engine/exhaust pieces appear other than this RTR stuff. Unless they would let you pick what you wanted.

I never thought I would be saying I may go look at a Mustang. I do know the owner of a huge Texas Ford chain too...
If I could get him to toss one out for invoice while no one is looking.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by Chenry135

This would be sick in gloss black with matte black decals!!!

This is the only pic I can find of that (from their website).... I just wish they could have made the front end look more like the Carbon and less like a 19th century locomotive.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by gonzo

DING DING DING!

I have owned one Ford, P/U, out of all my keys and have actually entertained this idea. It's not like your spending 80 or have something that is costly to repair. Waiting to see if any warrantied engine/exhaust pieces appear other than this RTR stuff. Unless they would let you pick what you wanted.

I never thought I would be saying I may go look at a Mustang. I do know the owner of a huge Texas Ford chain too...
If I could get him to toss one out for invoice while no one is looking.

I have been thinking that the new Mustang looks fun too, I am very impressed with Ford lately.

The only problem with the Mustang is that the fun part would be sinking money into it with aftermarket goodies, and that is a huge waste of money, even if the dollar amounts are not large.

I don't know if I could do it...I have spoiled myself with cars.