[thopwood4]

Watching KM to 0 was the best part!

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

BMW electrics is a nightmare. Everytime I come in for service I get nothing but horror stories down my SA as to the random things that fail in these bmw electric cars and they have no idea how to fix them so they just sit in the bay until bmw NA can figure it out and send a rep to fix.

Never had this issue in EU.

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by UtahBimmerBoy

Can confirm, we currently have two i4’s with dropped batteries that have been sitting for weeks.

Can confirm G90 is not an EV.

[hufington]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

Can confirm G90 is not an EV.

I wonder if you can confirm if G90 has batteries that add power to the car, I don't know, like an EV for example?

[wesleyan92]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

That is 62-124 MPH for those of us from countries that have landed people on the moon and measure distance in 12th’s.

Originally Posted by Remigijus

So why then, does NASA use the metric system for their projects?

Technically, Crazy1323 is correct.

Nasa didn't switch to official metric policy till 1979 and even then they were mixing and matching till the Mars lander crash in 1999. The lander crashed because one of the components was designed in Imperial system.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Still, it's not a trope. It's heavy, and unnecessarily so. It weights more than a Cayenne S Hybrid. It weighs more than a Panamera Turbo Hybrid, which is larger and packs standard air suspension.

Even though cars have gotten heavier, this car really should weigh sub 5,000 lbs. And even though it'll do the numbers, the weight hurts dynamically.

Your incorrect on the weight.

2025 Panamera Turbo S E Hybrid curb weight is 5,311 pounds....

The M5 is 5,390lbs... the Porsche comes with CCBs standard where as the M5 does not... so optioned it will make the M5 5,330.... with the carbon fiber roof..the M5 will weight 5,247lbs.


The Cayenne Turbo E Hybrid is 5,664lbs

In all specs they are base manufacturer weights.

So the m5 equipped is light for this style of execution. Still fat but in all these cases the bulk of the weight is due to the size of the battery. It's common of all these German plug in hybrids as they all are using the same kit.

Bentley Continental GT coupe - 5421
Urus Se Hybrid -5520
Bmw Xm-6,094

[evanevery]

Originally Posted by hufington

I wonder if you can confirm if G90 has batteries that add power to the car, I don't know, like an EV for example?

Technically the G90/G99 is a PHEV - not an (B)EV... Yes, it has batteries...

[evanevery]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Because they’re retarded

No... As a mechanical Engineer, I can tell you "Retarded" is continuing to use the SAE/Imperial system.

Metric is the way to go for sure. We (USA) were promised the metric system when I was a Kid in elementary school (in the 70's). Funny how we STILL haven't caught up to the rest of the world...

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by evanevery

No... As a mechanical Engineer, I can tell you "Retarded" is continuing to use the SAE/Imperial system.

Metric is the way to go for sure. We (USA) were promised the metric system when I was a Kid in elementary school (in the 70's). Funny how we STILL haven't caught up to the rest of the world...

Fellow BSME here (not a PE though).

100% agree. Metric is a million times better. Many SAE units were/are actually defined by metric units, so you have to start from metric anyways technically.

[evanevery]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

Fellow BSME here (not a PE though).

100% agree. Metric is a million times better. Many SAE units were/are actually defined by metric units, so you have to start from metric anyways technically.

I don't know that's accurate. SAE/Imperial units were established on their own I think. Certainly, there are conversions but which SAE/Imperial units are you thinking actually started as Metric units? Color me curious...

Hey, just be happy we aren't building houses and boats in "cubits" like the Egyptians did! ;-)

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by evanevery

I don't know that's accurate. SAE/Imperial units were established on their own I think. Certainly, there are conversions but which SAE/Imperial units are you thinking actually started as Metric units? Color me curious...

Hey, just be happy we aren't building houses and boats in "cubits" like the Egyptians did! ;-)

From the Weights and Measures Act of 1963 the yard shall be 0.9144 meter exactly and the pound shall be 0.45359237 kilogram exactly.

So while the pound predates the kilogram. The kilogram technically defines the pound now. And the kilogram is not longer a chunk of platinum in France.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

The M5 is 5,390lbs... the Porsche comes with CCBs standard where as the M5 does not... so optioned it will make the M5 5,330.... with the carbon fiber roof..the M5 will weight 5,247lbs.

I'm not sure if CCB and CF roof can save total of 140 lbs.
I think the first one should be 40-50 lbs at most and the second one less than 30 lbs.
Maybe total 70-80 lbs?

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

I'm not sure if CCB and CF roof can save total of 140 lbs.
I think the first one should be 40-50 lbs at most and the second one less than 30 lbs.
Maybe total 70-80 lbs?

https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/06/25/2025-bmw-m5-weight/

See above..remember the stand roof is panoramic glass


"On a similarly optimistic note, BMW will shave off some fat from the new M5 with optional goodies. The M carbon-ceramic brakes are about 55 lbs (25 kg) lighter. In addition, the M Carbon Package includes a carbon roof that shaves off a further 66 lbs (30 kg). Adding both options means you’ll reduce the sedan’s weight by 121 lbs (55 kg), lowering the curb weight to 5,247 lbs (2,380 kg) for the US-spec car."

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/06/25/2025-bmw-m5-weight/

See above..remember the stand roof is panoramic glass


"On a similarly optimistic note, BMW will shave off some fat from the new M5 with optional goodies. The M carbon-ceramic brakes are about 55 lbs (25 kg) lighter. In addition, the M Carbon Package includes a carbon roof that shaves off a further 66 lbs (30 kg). Adding both options means you’ll reduce the sedan’s weight by 121 lbs (55 kg), lowering the curb weight to 5,247 lbs (2,380 kg) for the US-spec car."

Thanks.
Although you read from that link and have good point that the standard is in glass but still I'm not convinced about 66 lbs saving on CF roof ; however I think something close to total 100lb ( CCB + CF roof) saving makes sense.
Let's see the actual measurement when they move to CF roof.
Maybe CF bucket seat also helps to reduce another 50-60 lbs.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Thanks.
Although you read from that link and have good point that the standard is in glass but still I'm not convinced about 66 lbs saving on CF roof ; however I think something close to total 100lb ( CCB + CF roof) saving makes sense.
Let's see the actual measurement when they move to CF roof.
Maybe CF bucket seat also helps to reduce another 50-60 lbs.

I believe those numbers are from bmw...

Page 15, first paragraph, page 25, 2nd paragraph of the BMW press release.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...43252EN/621219

Weight will probably vary by market and options...

[evanevery]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

From the Weights and Measures Act of 1963 the yard shall be 0.9144 meter exactly and the pound shall be 0.45359237 kilogram exactly.

So while the pound predates the kilogram. The kilogram technically defines the pound now. And the kilogram is not longer a chunk of platinum in France.

Yeah, so those are just conversions. The pound wasn't originally defined by a metric measure, but it does have a conversion factor...

[gblansten]

I always love how threads can drift off into the arcane.

You can come into a thread on forged wheels and at some point someone is going "a valence electron won't ever be coherent at that energy level".

[Panscan340]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Thanks.
Although you read from that link and have good point that the standard is in glass but still I'm not convinced about 66 lbs saving on CF roof ; however I think something close to total 100lb ( CCB + CF roof) saving makes sense.
Let's see the actual measurement when they move to CF roof.
Maybe CF bucket seat also helps to reduce another 50-60 lbs.

Who tf cares? ~100 lbs on a 5300 lb car is a total rounding error and no one is buying an m5 to track it. Such a weirdly specific and useless discussion.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Panscan340

Who tf cares? ~100 lbs on a 5300 lb car is a total rounding error and no one is buying an m5 to track it. Such a weirdly specific and useless discussion.

Obviously you are not following the original discussion on this specific topic

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Moewron

Yeah- it's baffling how many people feel a need to talk crap on every new BMW model that comes out. Until the next model comes out, that is... at which point the model BEFORE the current one was just amazing!

BMW is building cars to sell cars, and its clear that BMW's doing pretty well as a business. The fact of the matter is most of these salty people aren't the people BMW is building cars for. It's for that reason that I had to stop following the BMW subreddit... it was just a bunch of angry old men saying BMW has 'lost their way' while masturbating to pictures of E39s.

This actually made me LOL for real.

[nickem]

Originally Posted by wesleyan92

Technically, Crazy1323 is correct.

Nasa didn't switch to official metric policy till 1979 and even then they were mixing and matching till the Mars lander crash in 1999. The lander crashed because one of the components was designed in Imperial system.

Technically, the mission computer was programmed in metric and the calculations for the moon landings were done in metric. The mission computer displayed it in Imperial units for the astronouts, as they were too used to this nonsense and it was feared it might lead to mistakes on thier part.

[AndreiPopescu]

Originally Posted by Crazy1323

That is 62-124 MPH for those of us from countries that have landed people on the moon and measure distance in 12th’s.

Nasa used metrics for everything, only the cockpit instruments where translated to imperial for the american astronauts