[3erdrive]

Question about the radar cruise control options on the current M5. Anyone know why the latest M5 is comparably less equipped than the current 5 series when it comes to optioning the Driving Assistance Pro Package?

From what I can tell on the build sheet, optioning the DAP Package (ZDY) on the G90/G99 M5 only gives you the Traffic Jam assistant, which is hands free driving up to 40 mph on highways.

In comparison, for the X5 and above, as well as for 5 series up, cars can option DAP with Highway Assistant, which allows the same feature at 85 mph . Just checking if it's something to do with the head unit or the latest idrive, or some issue with power distribution in the hybrid that I'm not seeing that makes it not feasible.

Coupled with the lack of soft close doors, and there are some interesting creature comforts they're leaving out of the M5 which I argue BMW could honestly nickel and dime customers for as options like Porsche does. Call me not a purist, but how many customers are tracking their super heavy G90 M5s? In that case, offer up full leather options and alcantara race bucket options to maximize your profit margins. Also, I've anecdotally read that the rear doors lack comfort access sensors which means you wouldn't be able to open the car by pulling the rear door handles makes the car marginally more annoying when wrangling children, dogs, and groceries - I think a pretty decent use case for the ultimate family saloon and wagon. And the fact this philosophy applies all the way up to the X7 apparently is pretty whack too. Just some stray thoughts.

As for the 85 mph Highway Assist, I've used it before on my X6, and it's a minor game changer on the highway compared to the already decent active cruise control with lane keeping (that requires you keep your hands on the wheel), but it's nice to have access to both options when you want it. In comparison, the traffic jam assist at 40 MPH is useful in limited circumstances, but way less so because I can keep honestly keep my hand on the wheel and use the regular active cruise control (which is the setup I have on my old 2020 M8.)

[iifymbro]

looked up highway assist and sounds neat but to be honest I was fine without it in my G20, you just put the tiniest bit of pressure on the wheel with a couple fingers and in return don't have to stare at the road non-stop. Don't like the sound of looking in my mirror causing the car to try and change lanes either but hopefully you can turn that off.

I do wonder why it isn't included though, this is the same unit that the 7 uses and it has highway assist.

I'm pretty sure you can setup all 4 doors unlocking at once and use the keycard so as you approach the car all doors will be open, also the kick under bumper trunk opening is standard, I miss that on my G87 more then I thought. Not sure why BMW didn't put the sensor handles on the back though, probably price but c'mon lol

[nordmanmg]

My guess is, it’s an M5, and you should do the driving, because, you know - The Ultimate Driving Machine needs to be driven

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by 3erdrive

Question about the radar cruise control options on the current M5. Anyone know why the latest M5 is comparably less equipped than the current 5 series when it comes to optioning the Driving Assistance Pro Package?

From what I can tell on the build sheet, optioning the DAP Package (ZDY) on the G90/G99 M5 only gives you the Traffic Jam assistant, which is hands free driving up to 40 mph on highways.

In comparison, for the X5 and above, as well as for 5 series up, cars can option DAP with Highway Assistant, which allows the same feature at 85 mph . Just checking if it's something to do with the head unit or the latest idrive, or some issue with power distribution in the hybrid that I'm not seeing that makes it not feasible.

Coupled with the lack of soft close doors, and there are some interesting creature comforts they're leaving out of the M5 which I argue BMW could honestly nickel and dime customers for as options like Porsche does. Call me not a purist, but how many customers are tracking their super heavy G90 M5s? In that case, offer up full leather options and alcantara race bucket options to maximize your profit margins. Also, I've anecdotally read that the rear doors lack comfort access sensors which means you wouldn't be able to open the car by pulling the rear door handles makes the car marginally more annoying when wrangling children, dogs, and groceries - I think a pretty decent use case for the ultimate family saloon and wagon. And the fact this philosophy applies all the way up to the X7 [...]

I have Driver Pro on my EU-spec G90.

It’s my first time having Driver Pro so I’m not expert in its use having only put 300ish kms on the vehicle.

However, it definitely works at Motorway speeds (75 mph /120kmh) -see image.

Not sure if that helps.

FWIW: I misread a doc previously that suggested it was speed limited. The wording is convoluted… maybe that’s the issue?

[CedosBel]

I looked at EU specifications of my future and compared with a "normal" 5 series and I can't see any difference in the Driving Assistant Pro package.

This is what I am expecting:

EUPremier can your M5 do that?

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by CedosBel

I looked at EU specifications of my future and compared with a "normal" 5 series and I can't see any difference in the Driving Assistant Pro package.

This is what I am expecting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsjzydF04c&t=821s

EUPremier can your M5 do that?

Hi Cedos,

The fast answer is Yes & No. The G90 will not do all of that but will do some of it the omissions being: Touching the steering wheel frequently is always required and the ‘mirror glance’ will not lane change.

It will change lane if you use the indicator stalk to either position 1 (pulse) or 2, latch.

I have contacted BMW Connected Drive assistance specifically about the matter. They advised that some high-spec i7 models have it in Ireland and one X1, X3 or iX too (can’t recall which). I suspect Belgium is the same way. (Suggest you go into the Belgian configurator and see can you see it for the i7 M70).

They appeared to indicate that it is delivered active on German, possibly Norway & US models on G90 where, in the case of the latter, it is known as Highway Assistant Plus.

I get the impression that the G90 in all other markets has the equipment on board but it is inactive, possibly due to regulatory matters that have yet to be ironed-out.
As you’re probably aware, the Connected Drive store enables retro-activation of some features not active from factory on some vehicles.

For example, my vehicle was delivered without ‘Parking Assistant Professional’ (only available as part of Ultimate Pack) but I now have it as free 3-month trial and can add it permanently for €350.

As I believe the G90 is equipped with all the hardware, it’s just not currently allowed, I suspect Driving Assistant Plus will go the same way and be available later. So, I wouldn’t suggest you not buy the car because of this.

The only fly in the ointment of this argument is that it’s equipped on two models in my market which suggests it’s not a regulatory matter. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Images support some of the views above -German configurator for G90.

[james.engel@me.com]

If you look at US 5 series options you get this…

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...a67g26/options

2500 option that has active driving assistant pro as well as highway assistant

The options for the m5 costs 1700 and only has active driving assistant pro not highway assistant.

My guess is m5 does not have it for what ever reason. Strange the 5 series does though.

[StitChES37]

I have the G90 - If I have a destination in the navigation system and am using the active cruise control / highway assistant, then it will suggest a lane change and if I look at the side mirror, it will automatically signal and execute the lane change.

[3erdrive]

Very interesting, I think though, driving pro gives you active cruise control with lane keep (car provides some mild steering correction) all while you have a hand on the wheel every now and then. While in contrast, highway assistant gives you the "green light" on the steering wheel and true hands free as long as the system deems the road readable and the camera inside sees your eyes are not distracted, no need for continued steering inputs. It's a decent upgrade over the capacitive touch requirement where you have to constantly have a hand on the wheel.

Though, I admit purists will decry "why get a M5 if you're not driving it" - but I think a grand tour barge like the current M5 is the perfect platform to have all the fancy self driving gadgets. Reduce driver fatigue to the max while you're on the way to COTA or Lime Park (for the lucky few brave and insane enough to track these behemoths). And for daily driving, it's a no-brainer to have all the driver aids possible.

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by 3erdrive

Very interesting, I think though, driving pro gives you active cruise control with lane keep (car provides some mild steering correction) all while you have a hand on the wheel every now and then. While in contrast, highway assistant gives you the "green light" on the steering wheel and true hands free as long as the system deems the road readable and the camera inside sees your eyes are not distracted, no need for continued steering inputs. It's a decent upgrade over the capacitive touch requirement where you have to constantly have a hand on the wheel.

Though, I admit purists will decry "why get a M5 if you're not driving it" - but I think a grand tour barge like the current M5 is the perfect platform to have all the fancy self driving gadgets. Reduce driver fatigue to the max while you're on the way to COTA or Lime Park (for the lucky few brave and insane enough to track these behemoths). And for daily driving, it's a no-brainer to have all the driver aids possible.

There are plenty of keyboard warriors bemoaning the lack of massage seats & soft-close doors both of which, IMO, have no business adding more kgs to the weight on a performance car.

However, developments in anti-collision aids which, especially in the case of Highway Assistant PLUS, are zero-weight software to leverage existing sensors is another matter altogether.

The fact is that people buy M5s as they require its versatility. Sometimes you need it to be smooth & quiet. Sometimes you want it to electrify & amaze you. Sometimes it’s nice to let it take over the traffic jam as you manage a work problem.

So, I’m all for this type of tech onboard.

I wrote to BMW today seeking a proper answer as to why Assistant Plus is omitted in many markets.

Will post if I get an answer.

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by StitChES37

I have the G90 - If I have a destination in the navigation system and am using the active cruise control / highway assistant, then it will suggest a lane change and if I look at the side mirror, it will automatically signal and execute the lane change.

That’s interesting. I did not have Nav active when I tested mine. Have it off-the-road while snow, ice & salt are present. Will check in due course.

Interesting too to note that Highway Assistant Plus is not mentioned on the US Configurator.

The acid test is this:

On a normal Highway (no road works etc), Nav On… can you take your hands off the wheel, and leave them off?

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by james.engel@me.com

If you look at US 5 series options you get this…

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...a67g26/options

2500 option that has active driving assistant pro as well as highway assistant

The options for the m5 costs 1700 and only has active driving assistant pro not highway assistant.

My guess is m5 does not have it for what ever reason. Strange the 5 series does though.

Yeah, again for clarity: It’s Driving Assistant Plus we’re after here.

It needs to be enabled within iDrive before it’ll be offered.

[EUPremier]

There’s a thread about DA Plus on Reddit not G90 specific but…

…it does mention something about the highways it works on needing ‘map data’ for it to work. I wonder is it external road data that’s the missing piece here?


DA+ on Reddit

[3erdrive]

I agree on the drivers aid point, But I wonder if there is an actual chip or processing limitation so that the actual idrive computer is limited, or somehow the sensor placement is compromised given the dimensions of the car.

So it appears from the build guide that the G90 M5 has the "traffic jam assist" feature, which is hands free "up to 40 mph" - this is significantly less useful than my X6's upgraded "highway assist" which is up to 85 mph or so hands free. Both require you to be on a freeway to engage these "upgraded" cruise control features, and obviously the 40 mph limitation is rather low unless you're in bumper to bumper traffic.

I base this on the 2025 build guide, which is linked here: https://g90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2156661

And which I have a screenshot below:

And the ordering guide here:
2026 BMW M5 Sedan (G90) Rel 2024-12-31 - OrderingGuide (1).pdf

[CedosBel]

In Belgium, both the M5 and the i7M have the "Driving Assistant Professional". The description explains that the Driving Assistant Professional includes the Driving Assistant Plus. But the description makes it clear you do need to use your indicator to change lane. So the names seem different but the modus operandi it is consistent between models

If I use google translates, for the M5, it reads:

"The Driving Assistant Professional combines all the functions of the Driving Assistant and Driving Assistant Plus. This equipment also includes other systems for even more driving assistance, safety and comfort.

The Traffic Jam Assistant lets you relax. If you wish, it supports you in heavy traffic situations: by taking over the steering, the distance to other vehicles, acceleration and braking until you come to a standstill. In addition, it automatically forms an escape lane and thus contributes to safety.

The Lane Control Assistant keeps your BMW safely in the middle of its lane. This function supports you on recognised lanes up to speeds of 210 km/h. This allows you to master fast motorway journeys and narrow areas with even greater safety. After all, the active side collision protection keeps watch and intervenes if necessary.

The Lane Change Assistant makes it easier for you to merge into traffic. This is useful, for example, on motorway slip roads. Your BMW can find a gap in the traffic flow and adapt its speed. You receive a lane change indication in good time and all you have to do is put on your indicator.

In the city, the situation can quickly become confusing. Your BMW recognises stop signs in city traffic and ensures that you always drive in the right direction. It's reassuring to know that you can rely on it.

The Emergency Stop Assistant is also there for you. In the event of a medical emergency, you are in good hands. It detects serious situations, takes over the steering of the vehicle and brakes your BMW safely to a standstill. What's more, it makes a call itself."

[CarlosM4]

The G90 does not have highway assistant.

In fact even the Traffic Jam Assistant it has (up to 40mph) is not the latest in BMW repertoire (it constantly asked me to put my hands on the steering wheel).

[subterFUSE]

My perspective of the M5 has always been that it's both a performance car AND a luxury car at the same time, and therefore it should have every luxury option that the standard 5 series offers (and possibly more).

I believe this was true for the entire history of the M5, until the G90.

[ctelimad]

I think the made a decision to keep the car price low by removing some luxury items despite all the technology and the hybrid cost otherwise like every model this model should have been 10 to 20 % more expensive then the previous one
If you ask me I would have preferred to pay little more and get all the goodies like full leather , rear comfort access soft door closing...
They did the same with my wife's 2024 x5 , they removed rear climate control and rear comfort access and everytme i put my daughter in the car my wife and i starts cursing bmw at this stupid decision

[CarlosM4]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

My perspective of the M5 has always been that it's both a performance car AND a luxury car at the same time, and therefore it should have every luxury option that the standard 5 series offers (and possibly more).

I believe this was true for the entire history of the M5, until the G90.

Nope, the F10, E60, and the F90 had less luxury options than the top spec 5er.

The F10 had no adaptive cruise control and driving aids (the top spec F10 5er had it already)

The E60 also had no adaptive cruise control, rear seat entertainment (where as the 5er had it)

The F90 was the one that came the closest but the G30 top spec 5er had the 4 wheel steering and the variable sway bars which the F90 M5 did not have.

[HMN]

Originally Posted by CedosBel

I looked at EU specifications of my future and compared with a "normal" 5 series and I can't see any difference in the Driving Assistant Pro package.

This is what I am expecting:

EUPremier can your M5 do that?

05:43
I noticed that the car signalled and moved into the left lane by itself. Is this normal? anyone know what are the conditions to be met for it to do it?

[EUPremier]

Originally Posted by HMN

05:43
I noticed that the car signalled and moved into the left lane by itself. Is this normal? anyone know what are the conditions to be met for it to do it?

The conditions are:

1. Driving Assistant Plus (DAP) is active
2. Driver looks at wing mirror

The above is very simplified and whether DAP is available on your vehicle appears to depend on your:

• Location &

[*]Vehicle specification (certainly will require Driving Assistant Professional option)[/LIST]
Furthermore, you must be driving on a Motorway/Highway meeting specific criteria possibly with:

• Navigation active
• … & Mapping data available with certain meta data embedded to support autonomous driving on that road segment

Finally, if above criteria are met, you must remove your hands from the wheel once ‘DAP is available’ appears in the cluster.

[AP]

I believe the maps for the plus are called HD maps

https://autobuzz.my/2022/11/09/bmw-r...aps-from-here/

I think it was the same for the previous generation

If your sat nav maps are “hd” then presumably it’s possible in your country